Steam games

[erico]

Ian forgot to add one more spy, the worst  of all, your own bank account .
Privacy is something that can only be physical nowadays(actually for quite a while I suspect), no other way.
Law is hard to discuss.

[Ian Price]

Ian forgot to add one more spy, the worst  of all, your own bank account .

I didn't forget - I had just made my point. I also didn't include other service providers (gas, water, electric), your school (where I live some schools have taken to using CCTV cameras in the loos!), your workplace etc. etc. and about a million other companies/services you never even think about...

Worrying about whether a games supply service is watching you is the least of your worries!

[erico]

Omadan, which game you plan to steam?

[Omadan]

Erico thanks for bringing this on topic, my question was just if steam was useful for us here, not the law etc etc.

I already posted it seeing that there were games there in the green light which I thought were not good. But guess what they dislike my game a lot and insulting it etc.

And there you have a game named 0 probability getting loads of positive comments. This is really weird. I know my game is not the best but comments are not just.

Anyway I won't use steam I think and carry on with iOS which at least is doing great for me.

*love* the pc market in my opinion. This is for me dunno what you guys are doing.

By the way people who have played my game really say the comments are quite mean. That's just life

Of course I do all on my own and ain't got dedicated pixel artists etc, I do what I can.

You can see all for yourself at steam green light. Fluffy game.

Regards

[erico]

Just checked.
Yep, the comments are on the macabre side, looks like 14 years old level.
Still, 34 comments so far and I think this will be good to spread it.

[Omadan]

Indeed that's what I thought. But did you check that '0 probability' game?

It's getting insane positive reviews and comments. That is quite shocking?

Anyway I have lost all hope with steam. You can say I don't like the game etc. But flame me? Come on grow up kid! Or go back and play world of Warcraft.  Hehe, thanks erico.

[erico]

Don´t worry about the flame.

This article might be interesting:
http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2012/09/27/valve-on-steam-greenlights-failings-fixing-them/

I will check out green light anytime soon, but I can´t actually steam anything now as my few games are too casual I guess.
Next project maybe.

I like steam (but never use it), I think it adds greatly to the distribution/exibition pot.

[Omadan]

Nice read Erico, thanks pal.

When you do submit a game, I hope it goes good for you mate.

Regards

[Ian Price]

The Greenlight project sounded like a great idea when it was first mentioned, but you're certainly not the first (and doubtlessly the last) person to receive negative feedback unnecessarily. The voting system is also very strange by all accounts, where the number of positive votes doesn't necessarily mean anything to anyone but Steam themselves. There has been some utterly bizarre games receiving high scores and brilliant games getting very few. At least Steam has (supposedly) removed the negative/down vote button now.

The problem is that Steam really is seen as the ONLY real choice for true indie games to be seen on the pc nowadays - large portals are only selling big name games or ones with professionally created media. Greenlight seemed to be the Holy grail - now it's looking more like a rusty chalice.

And what's worse is that people are having to pay $100 for the privilige of being given negative comments with little to no chance of having a game published. At least on iOS you pay your $100 and then get your game onto the AppStore (OK Apple have the final say, but revisions are usually swift and you will get your game out there).

It (Greenlight) still can work, and can get your work pushed to the masses, however it looks like there's more work to be done with the "people" side of things.

[EDIT] And sorry for the thread derailment, but that was down to the troll.

[Omadan]

I agree with you wholeheartedly Ian.

Ye at the end of the day iOS is our big friend no matter how hard of a time we have them at times.

Thanks again all. Take care guys.

I'll probably start fluffy for iPad.

[spacefractal]

Yes its seen there is many negative comments, howover some of them seen also valid and explain why. Negatiev critic can been used as long its well writin.

I do have to say "0 probability" is well executed, dispite bad graphics, but with style, and very great music. People like the music and they vote due that.

[Ian Price]

There's a big difference to being negative and constructive criticism. The former is not generally helpful, where the latter can help to improve aspects of your app. But you know that already.

[spacefractal]

Fluffy might missing some style and someting seen to been missing. Howover here I will trying to do some constructive critic, if negative sorry, it's that not meant.

I saw a comment the game is too much generic 90'er dos shareware in either good or bad way (I fell little bit). Howover I gonna think with that comment in mind, the game could been more suited extracly that to give that 90'er style. That include resoulution. I love Chunky Pixels games and this could been a good one using that style as a least as option (and is easy to implement since I guess you allready have a 480x320 version of it. This is a idea :-).

I think about that due it's use midi music and midi music is just not good to uses today, but better 90'er style, midi music would have no problems doing that (music itself is well chosen, so its just format used).

EDIT (no reason to post new thread):
Very good luck with your game . Its seen its property your best game.