Windows.... 8 .... ):

[Darmakwolf]

Well it's really a UI disaster, isn't it? I got Windows 8 from MSDN finally. GLBasic works fine, but... well this happened. I wanted to make snow, which is easy and I've done it many times before. But for some reason it's doing some weird discoloration! I've tried alphamode, smoothshading true/false, and different color variations. White snow draws as yellow snow... ick! Look.



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[Darmakwolf]

Oh.... silly me. Fixed it. I guess smoothshading false needs to be at the beginning of the main loop to not screw up small, thin lines. I figured once at load-time would have sufficed...

[erico]

but one good thing on win 8 so far is the minimalistic gfx you are using there on the desktop, that plus very few colors and no degradee should make me happy.

[okee]

What's win 8 like otherwise, Can it be customised to be more like 7
or are you stuck with the Metro/Modern UI (or whatever they call it)

[mentalthink]

A very good point of windows 8, not it´s only the UI, the Kernel it´s reduced 20 Mb... seems this it´s a very huge in the kernel, then seemd windows 8 runs faster and more stable than 7....

For me 7 has the best S.O of all , except windows 2000, never crashes in 2 o 3 years using each day...

[Darmakwolf]

Windows 8... where do I begin. It's a big step backwards. I can't say anything good about it except that technically they made it use less RAM than previous versions (7/vista.) Your customization is limited to changing the colors of windows. The window scheme color also changes the taskbar color - which would have been ok if they allowed transparency - which is strictly prohibited. You HAVE to use the "modern" UI, which I could literally make for you in MS Paint on Windows 95 in about 10 minutes. When you boot into Windows 8, you get no desktop. You get a grid of icons. Not a nice, ipad-like grid of icons... think of Windows Phone grids, except Barney the Dinosaur colored (Purple, pink, green... maybe a tiny bit of blue for Internet Explorer.) You can't disable this "feature." You have to run the explorer process to get to a desktop for normal, sane human beings. You get no start button. You have to move your mouse to the lower-left corner, and an ugly BOX appears. clicking the box opens the FULL SCREEN, opaque "Metro" thing you got when you booted up. Moving your mouse to the lower right or upper right on any screen opens a nasty looking side bar on the right, called a charms menu. It even puts a big thick box over the left of the screen telling you the time. I've done this ACCIDENTALLY countless times. Oh and if you click at the top of the screen by accident? The whole desktop does a Mission Control kind of thing, like OS X.... except it's gawdy looking and happens by accident when dragging to select icons all the time. It's a nightmare. Windows SmartScreen is worse than UAC from 7/vista. It doesn't give you the "allow" button, it just tells you you can't run an unknown application. LOVELY!

[Darmakwolf]

Also, I had to install Classic Start Menu 3.6. It literally hacks in a start "orb." I was going mad without it... Microsoft, you've lost this round. I'd rather use Windows 3.1 or DOS. I don't think I can take much more... if I wanted a touch screen tablet OS on my desktop, I'd have told you!!!!! 

[erico]

I haven´t tried yet but I heard similar opinions.
It all strengthen up the "one ok, one bad" microsoft OS situation.

Win 8 is shaping up as a skip OS.

[Slydog]

@Darmakwolf

I've been using Classic Start Menu for years now.
I hate what MS did to the start menu since Vista (or ME, or 98? can't remember!).

Once you get used to using a certain start menu, I wish they would quit changing it! 
(I wont even get into what they've been doing to Windows Explorer!)

I had a chance to try Win 8 this summer at a training course . . . meh!
I took me 10 minutes (ha, just a guess) to get into (or was that out of?) the Metro interface.

Change for the sake of change, IMO.

[Kitty Hello]

Yes. We're not bothering about it either. It will be ME 2, I guess. If they don't fix a proper desktop, people might switch to using osx. Many small companies already do with vmware for windows apps.