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Title: Test 3D software
Post by: Snoopy on 2019-Jan-29
I'm not sure it's in the good topic..

It's just a 3D engine sotware with 3DS file.
Move the topic if it's not in the right place (or delete it)

But could you give me the FPS have you have?

Thank you in advance  ;)

Title: Re: Test 3D software
Post by: Kitty Hello on 2019-Jan-29
I got 60 FPS - might be locked to screen refresh rate in my driver.
Title: Re: Test 3D software
Post by: Qedo on 2019-Jan-29
I got 260 FPS
Title: Re: Test 3D software
Post by: Snoopy on 2019-Jan-29
260 ... not bad  :)

Thank you Kitty and Qedo
Title: Re: Test 3D software
Post by: Heiko on 2019-Jan-29
~225 with my laptop intel hd 5500 chipset
Title: Re: Test 3D software
Post by: Snoopy on 2019-Jan-30
Thanks Heiko ... 225 it's not bad too  :good:
Good idea to give me information about your configuration, but as it's a 3D software engine, it's rather your microprocessors that are important.
I have a very old PC (which I have to change soon) and I can't know the speed with the new microprocessors... I have ~50 fps on my dinosaur pc  :D
The engine is not yet very optimized so your results are very encouraging.

I am interested in 3D software engines for pleasure but also for ease of export (iOS, Android, ...) and future adaptations (for example with others API).

I would probably make textured versions soon.
Some may also be interested in the 3DS loader.

-- EDIT : In fact, it's also related to the GPU and not just the CPU because I use an opengl function for the final display (an equivalent of mem2sprite) and it's really slow with my old Intel graphics chipset  :( Without this function I have ~320 fps --
Title: Re: Test 3D software
Post by: Ian Price on 2019-Jan-31
370+- FPS  =D
Title: Re: Test 3D software
Post by: mentalthink on 2019-Jan-31
I only had 60FPS (I'm running on Wine), but when I use the Torus demo of Glbasic, I had 590 FPS.

Really interesting are you did, load DAE files can be very very usefull from blender and I think is OpenSource.. I think the most new is GLTF can export PBR materials.
Title: Re: Test 3D software
Post by: Snoopy on 2019-Feb-01
370+- FPS  =D
The best :)

Mentalthink, yes it's strange.
But anyway the function mem2sprite is too slow (even the equivalent function that I use, although faster, is too slow) and the speed differences between each chipset are too important... it's an Opengl problem :(
You're right, the development of loaders is interesting - in any case more interesting than a graphics engine software too slow :D ... :'( -
Especially a skeleton animation loader (with of course the routine to display it), the .ddd format is nice but not flexible enough and takes up too much memory.
I would look at that when I would have recovered from the disappointment of my 3d software engine ;) ... :'(

Thanks to everyone for your help with the tests  :good:

Title: Re: Test 3D software
Post by: dreamerman on 2019-Feb-04
500fps on desktop (i5-3470, Radeon 7750), and I think that it's locked for it in app or driver.. didn't test on laptop and tablet with Intel HD, but if You want can do this later. Your are using function similar to mem2sprite? interesting ;-)
Title: Re: Test 3D software
Post by: Snoopy on 2019-Feb-04
500? ... New record!  :)

Yes mem2sprite is quite slow, I use the opengl function glTexSubImage2D which is much faster (but not enough and with a lot of differences depending on the chipsets).
Qedo has created a similar (and more flexible) version than mine here:
https://www.glbasic.com/forum/index.php?topic=11107.0 (https://www.glbasic.com/forum/index.php?topic=11107.0)
Title: Re: Test 3D software
Post by: dreamerman on 2019-Feb-04
It isn't so slow, but it depends on what you want to achieve, maybe playing with pixel format type would help somewhat if full ARGB isn't needed, and pure c++ array may be faster than passing pointer to GLB array.
result on tablet with Intel x5-z8350 and Intel HD Graphics: 120fps
Title: Re: Test 3D software
Post by: Snoopy on 2019-Feb-04
It's not really the problem. As I said above, without this function, and therefore without the use of opengl, I go from 50 to 320 on my very old PC (probably +1000 on your I5 without this function).
An option to completely disable opengl and provide only a framebuffer would be fine (even if we can't use the 2D and 3D graphics functions after that).
For example, using this type of library:
https://sourceforge.net/projects/pixeltoaster/ (https://sourceforge.net/projects/pixeltoaster/)

In the future, the options to choose its graphics module (opengl, opencl, directx, vulkan, metal ... or none) would also be interesting to have a program perfectly suited to the chosen platform.
But this is much more complicated and requires the help of Master Kitty =D

Thanks dreamerman for your test  :good:
Title: Re: Test 3D software
Post by: erico on 2019-Feb-13
370-405 variations here.
Title: Re: Test 3D software
Post by: Snoopy on 2019-Feb-14
Thanks Erico  :good:
But I gave up this software engine because of this function (although if I just finished, for the fun, a version with textures and lightmaps), maybe I'll come back to it one day ;)
Title: Re: Test 3D software
Post by: Hemlos on 2019-Feb-14
 i got 340 fps from your test

In general, its a relatively fast object, with moderate amount of nodes, good.
However, when i convert this using GLBasic .ddd converter, there seems to be a lack of texture coordinates.
Here are some screenshots in AGOSA
AGOSA is in the showroom. (http://www.glbasic.com/showroom.php?game=agosa1.9&vote=4)

ps. can you share the code you used to render the object?  :booze:
Title: Re: Test 3D software
Post by: Snoopy on 2019-Feb-14
The code has a lot of INLINE functions, moreover, because of the function mem2sprite (or its faster equivalent but still too slow), this little engine is really not interesting :(

Your viewer is awesome! With a beautiful GUI  :good:

Ps: I saw that the topic about your viewer was in the Beta Tests section, I think this topic should also be included in this section.
Could you move it to this section? Thank you Hemlos.
Title: Re: Test 3D software
Post by: Hemlos on 2019-Feb-15
sure but i want that code to render 3ds direct ;)
Title: Re: Test 3D software
Post by: Snoopy on 2019-Feb-18
My engine is really optimized for software, but if it interests you (and maybe others), I would make an opengl version of my 3DS loader / renderer.
But not now because I have a problem with one of my projects (see the bugs section).
A problem that could also affect this future 3DS loader ;)

Thank you for moving the topic.