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Title: [kickstarter] the untold history of Japanese game developers
Post by: BdR on 2013-Jun-04
Since we're all into game development here, I though this might be interesting. Someone over at hardcoregaming101 is doing a Kickstarter for a book about Japanese game developers.
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1748556728/the-untold-history-of-japanese-game-developers

It's the first kickstarter I'm backing, hopefully it will reach the goal and I'll get the digital copy. :) I though I'd post it here because judging by kicktraq it looks like it might be a close call to reach the goal.
http://www.kicktraq.com/projects/1748556728/the-untold-history-of-japanese-game-developers/

cheers,
Bas
Title: Re: [kickstarter] the untold history of Japanese game developers
Post by: mentalthink on 2013-Jun-04
I think this can be very interesting for the Retro-MSX in Spain a lot of people love the Japanesse Konami, Sega and all this Companies in my Country... I really don't play too much to japanese game, I think the only one "Contra" in amstrad called gryzor, and green beret (someone sure)...

Thanks for the Info...  to FB.

I know in UK someone are doing a book about Ocean ... I loved this people, the best of the best in 80's but I don't ear more news about this book. :(
Title: Re: [kickstarter] the untold history of Japanese game developers
Post by: Ian Price on 2013-Jun-04
That looks very interesting - especially since pretty much every game we play nowadays was originally inspired by those Japanese games of yesteryear. If funds weren't quite so tight I'd definitely buy a paper copy.

As for the Ocean book, it's KickStarter was successful and it's due in August - http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/47744432/the-history-of-ocean-software-by-retro-fusion

I really wish I'd backed that Ocean one now. Sadly I had (and still have) too many other priorities to pay for :(
Title: Re: [kickstarter] the untold history of Japanese game developers
Post by: BdR on 2013-Jun-04
If you can't back it, at least repost it on facebook or on other forums, because it sounds like a pretty cool project. :) spread the word
Title: Re: [kickstarter] the untold history of Japanese game developers
Post by: Ian Price on 2013-Jun-04
I have done :)
Title: Re: [kickstarter] the untold history of Japanese game developers
Post by: mentalthink on 2013-Jun-04
Thanks Ian I try to buy it, for me Imagine and Ocean, and some Spaninsh was the Best, US Gold, I don't understand how whit all the money they have the quality was very poor

***Ian I go to put a very cool youtube video in Offtopic section about Ocean, I look the weekend and it's incredible cool and Nostalgic...
Title: Re: [kickstarter] the untold history of Japanese game developers
Post by: Ian Price on 2013-Jun-04
I'd already seen it, but it's a really insightful look at the software and development market of the time. Ocean certainly ruled the waves at one point.
Title: Re: [kickstarter] the untold history of Japanese game developers
Post by: erico on 2013-Jun-04
I really wish this hits the goal, I can´t back anything this next couple months though :(

Japonese old games are my preferable dishes...I do hunt for translations of old games and so on.
Really love that work, pixel art and music they did back at 80s, I´d wish things would be that way today at least a bit.

I will help spread the word, but it is hard to find people that are interested on this subject.
Again, great work, I hope I can get a digital copy later on.
Title: Re: [kickstarter] the untold history of Japanese game developers
Post by: BdR on 2013-Jun-05
I also hope it hits the goal. As of yet though, the stats on kicktraq.com (http://www.kicktraq.com/projects/1748556728/the-untold-history-of-japanese-game-developers/#chart-daily) are not looking too good.. :doubt:
Title: Re: [kickstarter] the untold history of Japanese game developers
Post by: Ian Price on 2013-Jun-05
KickStarter projects always pick up at the end if the going is good; backers are generally wary at the start, but grow more confident as the funds come in. It's got nearly half its funding with over 3weeks to go. It should make it. :)
Title: Re: [kickstarter] the untold history of Japanese game developers
Post by: mentalthink on 2013-Jun-06
Bdr don't worry too much for the money now, I pay in Spain for a ebook about a game of 80's and in the last week, the money arrives to the top, and in this date fault more than the half for make possible the crowfunding...

Always in the last days the people put more money.

I speak about the book in the RetroForum I'm registered and I look some people very interested... the fact it's in Spain, I don't know the reason the MSX have a lot of Scene... and was a very minoritarie Computer in 80's like C64.
Title: Re: [kickstarter] the untold history of Japanese game developers
Post by: erico on 2013-Jun-06
Brasil has a strong culture on msx, people even did create unique hardware for it.
Bad part is, apart from me, I don´t have many friends that value this kind of stuff enough :(

...time to change my circle of friends! :P
Title: Re: [kickstarter] the untold history of Japanese game developers
Post by: mentalthink on 2013-Jun-06
Don't think here it's different Erico, but here it's for the forums, and the 80's decade, here a lot of people only play to the old goods times, and the AAA games don't like them too much.

I'm sure in your coutry you have some RetroForum,... In youtube I look a lot of people Braizilian whit Arduino and Raspberry and this guys only want sparkles and integrated Circuits...

I know MSX arrives to Sud-America but very late, problems whit frontiers and marketing, whit another name... BUt I think really the only 3 or 4 places around the World whit a very huge market was UK, USA, Japan and Deutschland, basically in this places the common people have more money than another places... in Spain Commodore was really really extrange computer.
Title: Re: [kickstarter] the untold history of Japanese game developers
Post by: erico on 2013-Jun-06
Correct, the frontier problems at the time made it arrive here late, we also had no commodore 64.
Mostly 80´s computers here were rebranded brazilian versions, some even illegal. Ridiculously, It was also illegal to import anything at that time.

Nowadays, just retro people and fans. We also never had much of a software development, while in spain, people created some excellent msx games.
After the war was really nice at the time, and so the amiga version too.

I´m not sure msx had much of space in the USA though.
Title: Re: [kickstarter] the untold history of Japanese game developers
Post by: MrTAToad on 2013-Jun-06
Gernot should do one about the history of GLBasic!
Title: Re: [kickstarter] the untold history of Japanese game developers
Post by: erico on 2013-Jun-06
Glb is what? around 10 years old? It would be a nice story.
Title: Re: [kickstarter] the untold history of Japanese game developers
Post by: mentalthink on 2013-Jun-06
10 years of GLbasic ?¿, this it's practically a life... perhaps can be better in 30 years forward and we remenber a thing called iPhone  :D :D

@erico, about MSX you are confused, the spaninsh games for msx, don't was too much good, basically them are direct ports from Spectrum to MSX, MSX it's a extrange thing in Europe don't was a great sell computer. Amiga Atari and this things don't works in Spain to, the companies don't make good movments, and in Spain only somepeoples we have the lucky enjoy of Amiga... Try Risky Woods, fantastic.
Title: Re: [kickstarter] the untold history of Japanese game developers
Post by: erico on 2013-Jun-06
I did have risky woods, really nice, almost a Rygar!
Now that you mention yep, lot´s of spanish software were ports from zx spectrum. But at least they did a lot of stuff even if ports.

There were only a few brazilian games for msx, mainly advendutes and not quite good.
Tell you the truth, brazilians never developed anything game related substantially enough.

And people didn´t quite seem to be interested in computers at all. Maybe just after year 2000 with cheap computers and internet and orkut+facebook and girls using it that people showed some interest. Maybe too many beaches and sun fry their head a little too much :P

Edit: I think GLB is even older then 10, probably 14? It did had another name long time ago didn´t it?
Title: Re: [kickstarter] the untold history of Japanese game developers
Post by: mentalthink on 2013-Jun-07
No Erico the problem in your country are this:
1.the women
2.the beach
3.the heat
4.el carnaval
=D =D =D

Out the jokes, the Computers(this we comment a bit in Spanish Forum), I think not too much people have or was interested about Computers, I think this commes into oneself , here was the same in 95 when PC commes more cheaper... well 200.000 ptas was a very high prize, the people begun to buy computers, whit the first good speeds of internet the people buy more, but only for films and music, I think here the people think in a Computer like a washer or a blender, but the good thing it's computer have free films and free music...

Another thing it's about videogames, I don't know if this in another countries it's similar, but here who played to videogames was a nerd or who uses computers it's the extrange guy... but I think this it's most common in all the world, if you think in a computer, it's a complex device and well... now we stay in 2013 but really it's a very newer device yet, the mind of the population it's more focused in another things... IMHO.
Title: Re: [kickstarter] the untold history of Japanese game developers
Post by: kanonet on 2013-Jun-07
Quote from: mentalthink on 2013-Jun-07
No Erico the problem in your country are this:
1.the women
2.the beach
3.the heat
4.el carnaval
=D =D =D
Cant see a Problem here! Ok, besides the heat...
:nana:
Title: Re: [kickstarter] the untold history of Japanese game developers
Post by: MrTAToad on 2013-Jun-09
The MSX was designed to try and standardise computers - it was a pretty poor performing machine (in all respects, although it was popular in the East).
Title: Re: [kickstarter] the untold history of Japanese game developers
Post by: BdR on 2013-Jun-24
There was a £5000 backer ("The hilariously expensive tier") so for now it looks like it might make it after all.. :)