Dear Apple,
thank you for the new iOS 5.1 update that doe not really offer any benefits other than security fixes. I really enjoyed the requirement of 1.5GB XCode download of all the past updates.
But since iOS 5.1 I would require XCode 4.3.1, which requires OSX Lion for 24,- EUR that only runs on Core 2 Duo processors.
Thanks also for leaving my Intel Core Duo out of this update. I am very relieved that I don't have to worry about all this anymore, because from today on I will never purchase any product with an apple logo anymore.
Yours faithfully,
-Gernot Frisch
[edit] OK, I noticed that my Mini is 6 years old now and cannot run x64 code. I don't really see the need for this to run XCode 4.3.1, though.
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Quote from: Qube on 2012-Mar-09
Im on Snow Leopard 10.6.8 - Updated iPhone4 & iPad 2 to iOS 5.1 and can still compile GBasic apps in XCode 4.2 (iOS 5.0 sdk) and run them on my devices with iOS 5.1 with no issue :)
Where is de problemo? :whistle:
OK, apologies for running havoc, then.
Apple really are shooting themselves in the arse with all these updates and yearly revisions of hardware. They are just alienating their users and pissing everybody off. It's about time the consumer said enough is enough - the time will come. Fix and patch by all means, but stop with the constant updates and HUGE (slow) downloads.
It is kind of strange that Apple is becoming more and more hated. Feels weird and almost wrong that it's almost completely swapped with MS. A decade ago would have been totally different (even 5 years ago).
Nice shiny things. That's what it is...
Cheers
I have an option on a Core 2 Duo Mac now. My sales from my iOS games are not that bad, but in the end it's a no-win, no-lose business.
QuoteAll this effort for just breaking even
That would be nice! Honestly Apple are geniuses (for making loads of money for themselves)! Better off financially (by miles) doing a late night shift at BK... Still you wouldn't have the satisfaction of getting it published (and then dragged down by people who want menu buttons and the like...)...
Cheers
That happens when apple discounted 32bit support. So you must have a older Mac?
But it's nothing new.
EDIT:
Yes its is a PITY the older xcode wont work with newest IOS, but just remove eventuelly the newer featues. its simply to stupid by Apple.
It's typical Apple, new gear every 5mins it seems. Also their "You can upgrade your ram & HD but nothing else as we will be making that cpu obsolete or unsupported so don't bother as more money for us selling you a new mac"
My last Mac I bought was a Mirrored dual cpu G4, Makes an awesome server =D
Lee
I was exactly there as they switched from ppc to intel. The years have past and I am not that idealistic anymore.
Please buy that offer you got. Would be a strange thought, that the developer who creates glbasic, has not the hardware I am targeting.
Leave me a note and I buy you the Lion :D. You´ve earned it. Even if you never looked into windows multi touch support :D ( I know I am kind of the only one into this).
Or everybody who has not by now bought the decent glbasic software apps at the store just gets them now. Let´s make it a win business in the end. :whip:
Quote from: Kitty Hello on 2012-Mar-08
I have an option on a Core 2 Duo Mac now. My sales from my iOS games are not that bad, but in the end it's a no-win, no-lose business.
It is the reason I´m so afraid of getting into I-thing games. (would feel like I´m paying to work for apple)
Other then having to invest on some expensive machines, I think I would only make a profit of it if I could come up with an ok/avarege game every month.
I really wished I could go on living out of making simple games, but to start it up I would probably need at least some 50k$ to be sure things could get to the point of paying off. Bank can help that, but interests here are on the 130% per year...so you imagine tha bomb :o
I better do a few tests on desktops and android first just to finger tip the watter.
"rant off"
Can´t you "sign in" with apple like developer/partner and get some free hardware?
After all, you develop a tool that allows people to develop content for them.
QuoteCan´t you "sign in" with apple like developer/partner and get some free hardware?
Doubt it. You have to pay for the service every year so I doubt you can get the hardware free or cheaper. They are the biggest single player so they can afford to be arses. :)
QuoteAfter all, you develop a tool that allows people to develop content for them
And so do thousands of other people. All paying up. Apple pretty much doesn't care if a few don't take it up because of the costs as a tonne of other people will. Harsh but true.
The biggest annoyance is you *have* to use Apple hardware to publish really. It's not as if you can publish from a Windows PC or at least install OSX on a PC to do it (Hackintosh is capable of doing it (illegally I believe) but is a right pain for upgrading which seems mandatory if you use XCode). Out of interest now Apple are the biggest company in the world why are they not enforced to allow OSX on a PC (considering it is possible)? When MS were the big bad the governments couldn't do enough to make sure stupid things like removing IE or anti-competition rules were followed.
Total money making machine is Apple.
Cheers
just to confirm, I upgraded to Lion and xCode 5.1. Glbasic does compile nice to that. Of course no other features or such that tested.
Xcode 5.1? Crikey I haven't even moved onto Xcode 4 yet...
Cheers
Quote from: Crivens on 2012-Mar-08
Total money making machine is Apple.
Agreed.
But I asked about some kind on partnership couse I get to see a lot with microsoft around here.
Get their tools for free etc.
spelling, ooops. hehe. xcode was meant iOS 5.1
OSX = BSD unix with Apple UI & drivers/apps. Works on PC fine via Hackintosh . There is one little chip on apple boards which the OS looks for to make sure it's apple hardware. Hackintosh fools the OS into thinking the chip is present.
Want the latest GFX card for your mac?, tough wait till apple says you can have it (normally after another better one has been released) or wait for someone to right a Mac compatible bios on the gfx card.
Basically they have a niche market & while people keep buying their new gear, which while expensive, works out cheaper than buying a PC with all the software you have purchased/invested in, they will continue on their merry way.
There is big money in Film/Music/Print/Video/Graphic design, most of which have a Mac in there somewhere. That is the market they cater for, small indies are a speck to them with which they care less about. I have owed various Macs (my 1st being the 128k B&W original when it came out) & it was then that Apple changed from being a "Hobbyist Company" with the Apple II to the way they are now. The consumer market is not a big concern really regarding Mac's to them, they have that area covered with iPads/iPhones etc.
One thing I wish Microsoft would take a leaf out of Apples book is OS pricing, 1 price (low price at that) & 1 version (may be 2 versions if they still make the server version) compared to Microsofts many versions (Higher price to stupid high price).
Lee
Coincidentally, I just received an email: "Beginning May 9, 2012, the Windows Mobile 6.x Marketplace service will no longer be available. "
Matchy: Did you ever release anything for the Windows Mobile 6.x Marketplace? Was it much of a market? Are you a registered MS dev for the mobile platforms?
¿The last XCode not runs in Snow Leopard? Don't tell me this, I don't like Lion. They have too many developers and they don't deserve it.
No Ian, just Pocket PC Freeware WM5. It's sort of like an advert to the same app as the iPhone version, although there's no cross platform connect.
A hackintosh is a pain. I, like a few others here, pretty sharpish got a Mini after using a hackintosh for a short time.
Mine was a netbook with like 99% compatibility. Worked fine. Then it demanded an update to the OS to use Xcode. That required repatching it all again. Then once all done and ready needed new OS for some other thing. Ok upgraded and repatched again and was ready to go. Then a week later Xcode required another osx upgrade.
Sod all the mucking around (mainly because needed a fair bit of mucking around to get it to settle down each time). So I just bought a mini. After all the profits would cover it ;)
Cheers
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Terry Scott at his finest :)
Im on Snow Leopard 10.6.8 - Updated iPhone4 & iPad 2 to iOS 5.1 and can still compile GBasic apps in XCode 4.2 (iOS 5.0 sdk) and run them on my devices with iOS 5.1 with no issue :)
Where is de problemo? :whistle:
Im still in xcode 3, and will not update since GLBasic does not use any iOS features, it works fine on any iOS version.
Shit, I just realised that I have the same Mac as Gernot. :(
Edit: wait a minute, no its Core 2 Duo... oh that's just as bad... I only bought the damn thing for iPhone compilation! :puke:
Edit: OK, according the the first post Core 2 Duo should run Lion, it doesn't on mine, its says that its not compatible with Core 2 Duo... (kicks Mac over :()
I have the mid-late 2010 New Mac Mini (2.4GHz Core 2 Duo). I too bought it only for iPhone compilation. I've probably only turned the thing on a dozen times. Is it now obsolete? :rant:
According to Apple, Core 2 should run it - http://www.apple.com/uk/macosx/how-to-buy/ (STEP 1).
Core2 duo should work. Core (not 2) duo not. It seems to require x64.
Quote from: Kitty Hello on 2012-Mar-09
Core2 duo should work. Core (not 2) duo not. It seems to require x64.
Meh, after a little investigation, I see that the box my Mac came in has the wrong specs on it, it says Core 2 Duo on the outside but that's not what's inside the actual computer, it seems it has an Intel Core Duo. What a PITA.
I am not buying any more Apple stuff either, it seems to me that Apple has too much control on when things becomes obsolete. Intel Core Duo is more than capable of producing code for iOS but Apple at this point has said "no more for you, time to give Apple more money"! :rant:
Ian you could dual boot that thing and use it as a server/media center. Its a nice bit of kit. Shame if you didn't use it for something.
I wonder if there is any way to virtualise Lion, so it can be used on older Macs in a way that Apple would consider legitimate.
There's loads i could do with my Mac - it's plugged into the tv, and it has an external 1TB drive, so it could just be used as a PVR if I wanted. I even bought Parallels for it and have Windows XP installed (for my wife really, as she has never used OSX). I even installed MS Office and loads of other things (including GLBasic). It's a nice but of kit, but as I've not bothered compiling iOS apps since B'lox! it's been a bit of a waste of money really. I will get around to using it more soon though, I hope.
Well the only silver lining is that the resale value ofApple hardware is good, even older stuff. So I'll probably eBay it. Strange how the box said the wrong CPU though?
Now didn't someone mention a Windows iOS GLB compiler? =D
I upgraded to lion on my intel2core mini Mac, which also is from 2010 without issue. It took some while.
Here my previous setup did didn't find my 3GS. But not sure which sdk it's was....
Quote from: Ian Price on 2012-Mar-10
There's loads i could do with my Mac - it's plugged into the tv, and it has an external 1TB drive...
Haha, same here. I have a PVR that records to an internal drive and I copy over to the 1TB disk. On the Mac I wrote some program (DDgui) that converts the recordings to mp4, using ffmpeg. Also I shrink some of the movies to put them on the iPad for long journeys.
My wife and the kids use the Mac as a DVD and CD player. I got a mini wireless keyboard for it. My wife is overstrained when it does not work as expected (especially ejecting a disk), but my kid starts to get a grip.
I also copied most CDs into iTunes now, and there's an "Remote" app for iTunes to be controlled by the iPad. That's very handy.
thats also my deal mac mini - eye tv --tv--iphone/ipad--itunes
programming from the couch on an big tv is also great !
I really hate the way Mac Mini's ejects discs - haiving to use the onscreen option is really at odds with pcs eject buttons. It takes an age too.
I don't envy you have to go the manual route Ocean... :S
http://guides.macrumors.com/Force_Eject_a_Stuck_CD_or_DVD (http://guides.macrumors.com/Force_Eject_a_Stuck_CD_or_DVD)
Quote from: Ocean on 2012-Mar-13
Quote from: Kitty Hello on 2012-Mar-13... My wife is overstrained when it does not work as expected (especially ejecting a disk) ...
Currently, I'm really stressed because it doesn't (eject a disk I mean) :whip: Tried everything on the net, so I fear I'm going to get intimately acquanted with the Mini's innards real soon now...
Other than the standard hold the mouse button & switch the mac on (while still holding the mouse button down) which I assume you have tried, there is the hold down F12 then switch on or the holding eject then switch on.
Failing that the is the holding down "D" which starts the apple hardware test, do the test & when finished select the shutdown option & it should eject the disk.
Btw, I am not sure if any of the above would work if you have a wireless mouse or keyboard, if so juat plug in any old usb pc/mouse keyboard.
I used to work for a university & being a media department we was mainly Mac based, stuck discs where quite common sadly & only once did any of the above not work. That one got fixed by booting it up in target mode & connecting it to another mac so it appeared as an external drive. Oddly enough the cd appeared on the desktop & was ejected with no problems :D
Lee