HI I leave this idea, perhaps can be benefit for all us... well today appears in the market RaspBerry Pi Computer... now don´t have any source in the net about games, programs or any code for this computer... and the sales was huge... I think the 10.000 units are sold in hours (I try from the 6 to the 11 of the morning, and I can acces to the 2 Uk Shops, and the Spaninsh equal), perhaps not it´s a console or a device from a great enterprise... but the people it´s crazy whit this computer... in the Retro Scene of Spain the people are going crazy for this little monster
GLbasic compile for Linux, and I think RaspBerry Pi comes whit debian in some version, and well... becuase we don´t make a web, when all us can put our creations... and make a Pionner little market... and well I´m sure more people meet Glbasic, and can help for growing GLbasic, and the community... Perhaps paying everyone of us a little penalty for promote the web whit our sales, like occurs in another markets... perhaps this runs...
I leave the idea, becuse I don´t have any idea of Joomla of another content creator, perhaps it´s a lazy thing, becuase Linux it´s free, but well 1 or 1.5€ for an application I think this not break the rules of Linux filosofy, a lot of distros are free, but Suse and red hat are of pay, and software like Maya or XSI are of pay too, and cost 6000€ or more, and the people pay it...
Perhaps how I say it´s a lazy idea, or not ...
it is a great idea. :good:
I think we could come up with our own app store for all "open" devices/comps, somehow attached to the main glbasic site.
I´m not sure how hard it would be to do it, my skills on web=0.
I can help some other way maybe.
I think you cant compile for it with GLBasic (at the moment), because GLBasic only compiles for Linux x86 not for Linuz ARM. I have a small arm device (Seagate Dockstar with custom Debian) and cant get GLBasic (console-)programs to work. But maybe Gernot can add this for us?
Ahhhh.... Ok Kanonet, thanks for clarify... well I have a little confused whit all this OS... Now I read Windows have a Windows 8 for Arm... and well I cooment in another forum about use RasBerry Pi whit this OS, and tell me... NO!!!, I´m not sure...
Then I think it´s too much work, for a thing perhaps don´t runs very Well, but Webos it´s Linux not?¿... :giveup: :giveup:
The idea was going to be get a couple of Pi's and then ship them to Gernot ready for him to update GLBasic :)
GLBasic can compile for Linux x86 and for WebOS, Android, GP2X... which are all Linux based and have a ARM CPU, so i 'think' it could be possible to add an option 'Linux ARM' without to big problems.
If Gernot need testdevices he can just install a ARM version of Ubuntu/Debien/etc... on one of his ARM devices, in most cases this should be possible without big hassle and there are several how tos in the net for android tablets or the hp touchpad.
I think it would be good if GLBasic was available as this device is introduced, as I have said, I think this little device will be a big thing over the next couple of years(100,000 buy hits within the first hour of it going on sale), it could be a great opportunity for GLB, as well as us to get in early.
I bought one. It would be totally awesome if GLB could compile for it :)
Looking at the Raspberry Pi site as well as RS components it seems they have picked Fedora linux as their distribution. How much this affects porting GLB to it I have no idea, but I guess most people will opt for that distribution (at the start at least) knowing that it has been made for the Pi. Of course die-hards will try to stick whatever they can on it :D
Lee
Quoteit seems they have picked Fedora linux
Could have been worse - they could have picked Federal Express :P
QuoteLooking at the Raspberry Pi site as well as RS components it seems they have picked Fedora linux as their distribution.
Where does it say that ? RPi have a Debian download on their download link and i downloaded a Debian image
from the Farnell site yesterday.
Quote from: okee on 2012-Mar-04
Where does it say that ? RPi have a Debian download on their download link and i downloaded a Debian image
from the Farnell site yesterday.
http://www.raspberrypi.org/faqs (http://www.raspberrypi.org/faqs) says the following
QuoteSOFTWARE
What operating system (OS) does it use?
We'll be using Fedora as our recommended distribution. It's straightforward to replace the root partition on the SD card with another ARM Linux distro if you want to use something else. The OS is stored on the SD card.
Does it have an official programming language?
By default, we'll be supporting Python as the educational language.
Any language which will compile for ARMv6 can be used with the Raspberry Pi, though; so you're not limited to using Python.
Will it run WINE (or Windows, or other x86 software)?
No.
What Linux distros will be supported at launch?
Fedora, Debian and ArchLinux will be supported from the start. We hope to see support from other distros later. (Because of issues with newer releases of Ubuntu and the ARM processor we are using, Ubuntu can't commit to support Raspberry Pi at the moment.) You will be able to download distro images from us as soon as the Raspberry Pi is released, and we will also be selling pre-loaded SD cards shortly after release.
As you can see at the bottom they mention 3 distros in total so but state Fedora at the start of that section. I have just looked on RPi's download link & Debian is the only one available as of this writing.
There is a post on the main page that says "Fedora remix download delayed by a couple of days" dated the 22nd of Feb, although it says a couple of days it seems they have not finished it as no download link from RPi.
Basically I think it might be a case of waiting for the dust to settle from the launch & see what pans out. I have not used Debian in a long time & only thing I recall is it used .deb packages compared to fedora's .rpm type. Obviously the package format does not affect the final executable but until the range of distro's is available who knows what ships with what as in SDL etc or whatever GLB uses on linux.
If anyone here is or has been a linux developer it would be interesting to hear your thoughts on this & any pitfalls you think that may crop up developing stuff for the Pi using GLB.
Lee
The only problem I can see is Gernot having trouble getting the libraries together...
Its armv6 linux. I think the webos compiler will do.
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This can be absolutelly fantastic, not for make games, but for the "cacharreo" (this it´s making the old computers and apparells internaly), can be awesome... if have any information about this... please comment, in Spain too much people had adquired a RasPberry and perhaps want some lenaguaje easy and powerfull, of course, I´m sure they are preffer C , I´m sure too, they are sadomasoquists :whip: :whip: :whip: :D
Let's be fair - if you're wanting to use a Raspberry Pi (or any computer for that matter) to program anything you've got to be a sadomasochist! :P
the Pi might fit perfectly inside old 8-bit computers...
I don't think the Pi would fit into the Spectrum case. Although TBF you did say computer, not calculator! :P =D
Quote from: Kitty Hello on 2012-Mar-06
the Pi might fit perfectly inside old 8-bit computers...
Great idea. There are joysticks with games on them so I bet the NES will be the first console gutted for a Pi. :)
Quote from: mentalthink on 2012-Mar-06
... perhaps want some language* easy and powerful*, of course, I´m sure they are prefer* C
I think there is a ready to go editor and tutorials for Python coded games at the moment. 8)
Ooh, this sounds like a great idea, stick one in an 8 bit micro case, add one of these...
(http://images.speed-link.de/prodpics/_spl/SL-6603-TWT/large/sl-6603-twt_rgb_004.jpg)
Using an authentic mouse and keyboard may be a little more problematic though?
hah remember this joystick . :good:
Pi for the masses and all ideas become reality !
I always hated the Competition Pro joysticks. My hands just never seemed to fit them properly. Everyone I know loves them, but I never felt comfortable using one.
I grew up with about a million Quickshot 2 joysticks (they died pretty quickly), which suited me perfectly until I got a Megadrive and found that that controller worked brilliantly on my Amiga.
What? no decathlon on atari 2600? :P
I loved the SNES controller as it fit comfortably in the hands. Was it also the 1st controller to have shoulder buttons?, & more or less all current controllers like the xbox/360 & Sony one's are based on that layout with the 4 buttons on the right (with the addition of analog sticks as well of course). I don't recall the Megadrive controller as never had one or if that had shoulder buttons & was out before the SNES.
Lee
For joystick use GlBasic your device mobile, Arduino and some 8 bits computer... more easy and more cheaper... :good: :good: , and well, play Out Run whit accelerometers...
I also used quickshot2 until I found the megadrive pad. Best of all, Blitz was able to poll all 3 buttons on Amiga!
This looks close to my ideal...
http://technabob.com/blog/2009/04/12/sinclair-zx-spectrum-linux-pc-casemod/
(http://retrothing.typepad.com/.a/6a00d83452989a69e201156f2dc666970c-800wi)
BTW his Flickr page shows you how to get the keyboard working.
Yep that is neat. I would like a MC-10 version. ;)
Quote from: bigsofty on 2012-Mar-07
This looks close to my ideal...
http://technabob.com/blog/2009/04/12/sinclair-zx-spectrum-linux-pc-casemod/
(http://retrothing.typepad.com/.a/6a00d83452989a69e201156f2dc666970c-800wi)
BTW his Flickr page shows you how to get the keyboard working.
OH MY GOD.... a ZX machine :-*
"The first Raspberry Pi build is a MAME machine"
http://hackaday.com/2012/03/22/the-first-raspberry-pi-build-is-a-mame-machine/
Good news! You can now test on a virtualbox image, which I tested a GLB linux compile and it works fine on this image (after a libsdl-mixer1.2-dev update). :good:
That's excellent news :)
I like the sound of that, means I can hopefully do away with a desktop just for my mame needs :)
Lee
the Pi runs on ARM, so the VirtualBox image... is that ARM?
I presume so - well, emulated anyway.
I did mention the VirtualBox image a while ago too... :)
Quote from: Kitty Hello on 2012-Mar-23
the Pi runs on ARM, so the VirtualBox image... is that ARM?
Check the tutorial ("If you wish to emulate an actual ARM device, launch LXTerminal and...")!