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Title: Alas poor Mac, I knew thee well
Post by: MrTAToad on 2010-Dec-15
The final Mac in the house literally went out with a bang earlier today - for some reason yesterday, it started shutting down on its own according every few minutes, with a slight smell coming out of it.

It looked like it was overheating, probably with the fan not working.  As with everything Mac, it would have cost a lot to get someone to even look at it, and so after it completely failing, it'll be replaced by a PC.
Title: Re: Alas poor Mac, I knew thee well
Post by: erico on 2010-Dec-15
sorry to hear about that... :(
but it´s quite scary as macs cost 3x their US dollar price in Brazil...
and if for ipad I plan to make apps, I will have to set a fortune buying them, that´s the reason I have been studying statistics...it has to pay off for such expensive equip...
Title: Re: Alas poor Mac, I knew thee well
Post by: MrTAToad on 2010-Dec-15
It had been going for well over 3 years, so its not too bad!  It was my mothers machine unfortunately, which was annoying.  However, we have at last got rid of the last Apple product, so its not too bad :)
Title: Re: Alas poor Mac, I knew thee well
Post by: Ian Price on 2010-Dec-15
:(
Title: Re: Alas poor Mac, I knew thee well
Post by: MrTAToad on 2010-Dec-15
At least I've managed to start the transfer of some Mac game accounts to the PC
Title: Re: Alas poor Mac, I knew thee well
Post by: bigsofty on 2010-Dec-16
That sucks, damn Apple stuff is a pain  to replace as it's so damn expensive.
Title: Re: Alas poor Mac, I knew thee well
Post by: Hatonastick on 2010-Dec-16
Welcome to the world of forced upgrades due to dying equipment.  My old laptops graphics card went kapow recently and so I've now got a brand spanking new desktop which has resulted in my being forced into the world of Windows 7 64-bit (AMD phenom something with 6gb RAM and an ATI HD Radeon 5770).  I'm still installing/transferring things and it's been over 2 weeks now.  Currently I'm installing (5th attempt now) the steaming pile of dog snot that is known as Valve's Steam -- which just as I typed that actually finished and run for the first time.  Ugh...

Anyway best of luck.  Glad to see it's not just Windows PCs that are a pain in the butt.  Hopefully the new computer lives up to expectations (when you get it). :)
Title: Re: Alas poor Mac, I knew thee well
Post by: Ian Price on 2010-Dec-16
I've never had a problem installing STEAM - on my Windows 7 machine or others.

I've loved Windows 7 since I first started using it. There are some things I don't like - Live Mail (shudder), MSPaint (I had to grab my old XP version) and SoundRecorder is now shite (so grabbed that from XP too). But other than that, it's all good with no problems (and no Windows crashes) in over a year.
Title: Re: Alas poor Mac, I knew thee well
Post by: Kitty Hello on 2010-Dec-16
For sound I use Audacity. The interface is quite rubbish, but it does what I need.

MSPaint is a true pain. Someone really should rewrite MSPaint, and make the source available. I wand pan with middle mouse button and zoom with mouse wheel, and RGB(255,0,128) in the palette. Heck, even save the palette to the registry.

I'm really looking forward to win7, though.
Title: Re: Alas poor Mac, I knew thee well
Post by: Ian Price on 2010-Dec-16
Audacity is good, but sometime (believe it or not) SoundRecorder is better for .WAV.

MSPaint DOES have RGB (255,0,128) in the palette automatically.

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Title: Re: Alas poor Mac, I knew thee well
Post by: Kitty Hello on 2010-Dec-16
Yes. XP Paint. The Vista one stopped. How stupid is that, changing the default palette of a standard program...
(http://www.glbasic.com/pix/tnpaintvistacolours.png) (http://www.glbasic.com/pix/paintvistacolours.png)
Title: Re: Alas poor Mac, I knew thee well
Post by: Wampus on 2010-Dec-17
Some time ago I did some online window shopping and did a comparison of the Mac Mini with what I could get with the same money (plus taxes). This is what I printed out after my virtual shopping:-

Win 7 Desktop: i3-540 3.06Ghz, 4GB DDR3 1600 memory, Radeon HD 5670, 1GB hard drive, 10X Bluray-RW, Win7 Professional and high-quality PSU and case.

Apple Mac Mini: P8600 2.40GHz, 2GB DDR3 1066 memory, Nvidia GeF 320M, 320GB hard drive, 8X DVD-RW, MacOSX.6 and very high-quality/quiet case.

I had to buy a Mac Mini for development purposes. I just like to torture myself with stuff like that above. :) I could probably do much better than an i3-540 now too, for the money.

Hatonastick, ALL computers are a pain in the butt. I have to say though, after setting up a few Win7 computers I'm actually looking forward to using it and going 64bit after the New Year. It'll break compatibility with a lot of apps I'm sure, but I can have a WinXP partition for legacy apps and I could really need more than 3GB of working memory with the amount of concurrent apps I like to run.
Title: Re: Alas poor Mac, I knew thee well
Post by: MrTAToad on 2010-Dec-18
The initial problem caused more problems than originally thought - it damaged the memory of my machine (Windows 8 memory check kept crashing and machine itself kept turning off) which in turn damaged the motherboard (no display) :(

Ordered a fast but cheap machine now...
Title: Re: Alas poor Mac, I knew thee well
Post by: okee on 2010-Dec-18
QuoteMSPaint is a true pain. Someone really should rewrite MSPaint

Why not use paint.net ?
Title: Re: Alas poor Mac, I knew thee well
Post by: Hatonastick on 2010-Dec-19
Quote from: Ian Price on 2010-Dec-16
I've never had a problem installing STEAM - on my Windows 7 machine or others.

I've loved Windows 7 since I first started using it. There are some things I don't like - Live Mail (shudder), MSPaint (I had to grab my old XP version) and SoundRecorder is now shite (so grabbed that from XP too). But other than that, it's all good with no problems (and no Windows crashes) in over a year.
I think the problem was due to network issues.  Turns out I wasnt the only one having trouble installing it recently -- guess they took some hammering recently, or maybe it was some network issue somewhere along the line.  In any case, it finally worked a few days ago and Ive not had any trouble with it since.
Title: Re: Alas poor Mac, I knew thee well
Post by: Kitty Hello on 2010-Dec-20
Quote from: okee on 2010-Dec-18
QuoteMSPaint is a true pain. Someone really should rewrite MSPaint

Why not use paint.net ?

Because they have hundrets of windows open. Just like Gimp. I hate it. I tried 3x but always decided to not like it.
Title: Re: Alas poor Mac, I knew thee well
Post by: Ian Price on 2010-Dec-20
I'm the same Gernot - I like MSPaint because it doesn't have moveable widgets and stuff that get in the way. The simplicity in it's design and it's ability to produce great results is often overlooked. I've seen some wonderful imagery from talented people in MSPaint.
Title: Re: Alas poor Mac, I knew thee well
Post by: okee on 2010-Dec-20
QuoteBecause they have hundrets of windows open. Just like Gimp. I hate it. I tried 3x but always decided to not like it.

You mean the toolbar windows ? They can be hidden and just leave Tools and colour
tool windows open.

I've used Paint Shop Pro 5 for years, they gave away free copies many years ago
it's probably the last version before it became all bloated, i have a couple of cover CD's with
it on it if you want one

(http://okcs.net/misc/psp.jpg)

I never liked paints ability to only work on one image at a time.

okee
Title: Re: Alas poor Mac, I knew thee well
Post by: Ian Price on 2010-Dec-20
MSPaint is definitely limited in it's abilities compared to most image production tools, but that's part of it's charm for me. I'm not an expert, so don't tend to need more advanced features. It does exactly what i need it to do 90+% of the time.

I wish the 4x zoom was standard on the toolbar though - it's too big a jump sometimes from 2x to 6x then 8x. At least it's accessible from a menu. I like Windows7 MSPaint's mouse zoom, but hate the rest of it. Ribbons etc. can bugger off.