(http://www.glbasic.com/pix/tnwebdesign2011.png) (http://www.glbasic.com/pix/webdesign2011.png)
what do you think? Any ideas for improvements? Any volunteers to help me?
My php skills are virtually non existant, but I will help with gfx or something if you need it.
I do think the cyan text colour is a bit hard to read - perhaps make it a very dark grey or black...
I do like the overall style - clean and uncluttered. Not so keen on the cyan text (on buttons and menus) or the plain cyan logo, but everything else gets a thumbs up from me. :)
Ya, the CYAN is nice looking, but hard to read.
You could try a darker CYAN such as RGB(0,100,100).
Or a colour half way between CYAN and BLUE, RGB(0,100,200) (or a darker variant).
Or between CYAN and GREEN, RGB(0,200,100).
But overall, very nice.
And maybe a slightly grey background to the top buttons and side panel, to help them stand out a bit.
Would have to darken the graphics in the buttons maybe.
(or a very light CYAN background may work to keep the theme, RGB(200,255,255)
And I liked your original GLBasic logo with the black outline.
Maybe even the new CYAN logo with a black outline instead of a lighter CYAN outline.
I can help with gfx, but it will take a little while to do, probably logo and this kind of things.
I think Erico has the edge on the gfx :giveup:
I guess we can all add to it if needed, there are a lot of type of graphics there I can't make it, the buttons, gadgets and color and layouts, it would just take me eons to come up with something...
Your stuff is very impressive though. Nice one! :good:
Why not pay a web designer to do it? Web design is very time consuming.
I think it´s a good start Gernot. As it´s all about taste, here are some of my ideas:
- Sure the cyan, as mentioned before, has not enough contrast.
- The buttons of the top menu are a little too rounded for me and should be scaled down vertically.
- At the home block I don´t like the rounded corners at the inside (between the white and the grey). A straight border would look cleaner.
- The header shouldn´t be rounded at the bottom, too.
- Mabe the top menu should be part of the header. It is looking a little bit lost where it is.
I like it, its very professional looking. If I had to crit I would maybe like the button outline and frame outlines, grey, to be a little darker to highlight them more,
What are you using to produce the website Gernot?
Cheers,
Ian
looks like a Wii-Menu :D
Not bad :booze:
it's based on the Wii website. :/
So far I used MSPaint. :D
If you want, i can help you :)
I can lend a hand with the graphics?
Cheers,
Ian
Hiro had a great idea. What do you think?
(http://www.glbasic.com/pix/tnweb2010_2.png) (http://www.glbasic.com/pix/web2010_2.png)
The "GLBasic" is a little too small, as it's on the bottom of the small case and may not be noticed but I really like the overall design and colour scheme. :good:
Cheers,
Ian
I like the second design colours, its more readable and clear.
Looking at erico's portfolio, That image he did for the Darkbasic competition is brilliant.
Something like that in the header would really spice things up
(http://sites.google.com/site/ericomont/_/rsrc/1255810561524/PRINTcovercomp-full.jpg?height=394&width=625)
Also a nice graphic showing what GLB can do i.e. compile to many platforms for a one off
price something like gamesalad has on it's front page
http://gamesalad.com/
Yes. Erico's work is really stunning. I never thought I'd met such an artist in my life.
But I guess he's pretty busy. ... or expensive :P
My design for GLBasic:
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...and a good-looking-screenshot of a GLBasic game on the main page is better than anything. =D How about new colors? :whistle:
Cheers
schranz0r this design is sooo oldschoool :D
No, THIS is old-school.
(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8773118/glbasic.png)
Moru try a browser with css support ;)
Schranz0r's design has good elements. I like the top bar. I don't like the many colours in the bottom part. I have something in my mind that could be describes with the words "clean, crystal, milk"
dynamic size webpages looks odd and meeeh.
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schranz0r this design is sooo oldschoool :D
I like Oldschool :D
OH, a bit too much colors on the contentplace...
@Gernot:
White,black,crome,milk? ... Not realy GLB-Like!
If you want an easy way to try out fonts/colour schemes etc take a look at
the Artisteer demo it creates themes for Joomla, wordpress and a few more
as well as exports to normal html, It's a quick and easy way to test a look
Demo video
http://www.artisteer.com/?p=demo
Version 3 Download
http://www.artisteer.com/?p=download_v3p
something like this?
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Not sure about the woodgrain effect, but that's appealing :)
Yes, it's nice. I think something metallic might work, too.
Or wet glass (http://wallpaperstock.net/water-drops_wallpapers_6852_1280x1024_1.html (http://wallpaperstock.net/water-drops_wallpapers_6852_1280x1024_1.html) )
How about blue instead of orange?
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hehehe its your site :D send me the blue buttons and i use them.
the wood in background is for my eyes :D bright white makes me sleepy
Quote from: okee on 2010-Nov-29
Looking at erico's portfolio, That image he did for the Darkbasic competition is brilliant.
Something like that in the header would really spice things up
My god, that was a long hand draw I did I never though would make anywhere!
Now it gets posted here, brings tears :'(
Quote from: Kitty Hello on 2010-Nov-29
Yes. Erico's work is really stunning. I never thought I'd met such an artist in my life.
But I guess he's pretty busy. ... or expensive :P
Neither of both, well, actually busy is sometimes correct, since I do work for publicity, sometimes I get full weeks of 14-16h day work (and still get home and work on my own stuff after such), but sometimes I get months off, It's quite unpredictable.
I can help with anything needed for this,
will try to come up with something soon to show up,
can't promise though, it's close to Christmas...
I think the buttons are to big for this design...
And PLS make a "Download Free 2D-Version now" so everyone can easy download the newest setup. :whip:
Not to be rude, but all of these designs seem a little "homemade" to me.
There are a lot of good basic themes for most cms'es out there.
Why not get an graphics artist to tweak one of them to suit your needs ? (having one built from scratch would be expensive).
Have a look in communities like http://abduzeedo.com/
There you can find a lot of inspiration and some good templates (if you dont build them from scratch).
Heres a joomla template I built from scratch for an customer http://www.caponemolde.no/
It's totally cluttered by the customer since I delivered it, bad pictures, symmetry distorted ao., but you get an idea. This was also one of my first websites, so my design is far superior nowdays.
I might be able to help in a couple of months, but I am far to busy right now.
Btw. What CMS do the glbasic site use ?
It's all my own php code :/
Gernot: If it is any condolence, I have spent the past three weeks trying to come up with a design for my web site and I still do not have anything remotely decent looking to put online.
The GLB site has always looked fairly good to me, so no matter what you decide upon, I am sure it will look great. :good:
I think the new design looks very professional. It just needs to show the top 3 Showcase pictures on the main page...
Ohhh look. A spam account with pseudo advice. :)
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Oi, who let you into my post? :)
Not to derail the thread, maybe I'll post this somewhere else but I swear GLB forum has become really hard to access lately. So many timeouts and failed messages. I thought maybe it was my link but I haven't had any trouble with the other forums I'm on.
Had no problems here
No problems here either.
No problems for me either, snappier than usual. Could it be the link to europe from australia? Is other european sites slow too?
Oh, that's a shame :(
Might be some of your wires are "flooded"?
One thing that would be nice is, in the showroom, being able to search for games using the author...
I guess this is a better thread to post it...
I have been twinkling with a possible new design too and a new logo, here is a sketch so far.
It's slightly based on the flash punk site and a few others I enjoy.
I can't stand programming sites with too much images and all dirty up (aye darkbasik),
I arrived here because of the clean design and straight glbasic information + manual + download...
...gave it a try on the boardgame competition and it all worked for me.
So I was looking into it, a clean design+showcase+info.
it's still just a layout...
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Interesting idea. I think there's a bit too many buttons on the top, no?
Also the "commercials" part (left frame) is dropped. I sort of thought that they are required...
Quote from: Kitty Hello on 2011-Mar-04
Interesting idea. I think there's a bit too many buttons on the top, no?
Also the "commercials" part (left frame) is dropped. I sort of thought that they are required...
I tried to condense the left frame info into the top buttons, I thought it would be better to have the top part of the page to display all necessary info links, and from there, you scrool down to more specific info into the one you chose.
News page should be the home.
Of course everyhing should be more grafical when possible, less big letters.
I got this layout out of my own experience into and searching languages, it may not be a fit for everyone.
One thing is that this is a general revamp, maybe it´s not needed at all but just a new skinning+slight layout changes.
What do you think? Should I try something on the current layout?
Did anyone notice the games on the showcase in the sketch? can you name them?
like i said, my drawings get surreal sometimes...
I see that one is B'lox :)
All looks good!
The first image is Hit The Deck, then B'lox! Is the last one Roll 'n' Fall?
=D
Quote from: Ian Price on 2011-Mar-05
The first image is Hit The Deck, then B'lox! Is the last one Roll 'n' Fall?
=D
great! that´s it :good:
I´m currently off to Santos spend carnaval days here, so only with my laptop.
I will give a better finilized try on a page as soon as I get back home and turn on my ´just arrived´ new machine! :)
Will try something with the current layout then instead of the sketched one up there.
Awesomeness!
May I also suggest if the website is going to be revamped, maybe a new logo for GLBasic? The current one reminds of the standard MFC Default Icon from days past.
(http://www.corrupteddatarecovery.com/images/Exe-DLL-Icons/C/Others/Icon--File-Type-Extension-CdpTester.exe.png)
Oh, I thought the cubes were ageless. But then the (http://czechmatediary.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/06/110-trabant.jpg) was supposed to be, too...
Any better ideas? I really liked the cubes.
Making the icon higher resolution will solve it...
Kitty - You win this round good sir :P
How about do a G with Cubes make it 3Dish.
Would that work?
I like GLB's cubes logo - it kind of suggests that you can make anything you want, large or small out of smaller parts and in any way that you choose.
How about adding something to the cubes then? Make them Glass like or even a design pattern on them?
while tunning the new machine, did a glbasic logo.
nothing really useful yet... just trying out fonts and general position/perspectives
...other then building blocks, they do resemble dices too.
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Quote from: erico on 2011-Mar-16
while tunning the new machine, did a glbasic logo.
nothing really useful yet... just trying out fonts and general position/perspectives
...other then building blocks, they do resemble dices too.
Sweet! How about putting it on a more Matte or less shiny Surface and bring the camera in a little closer? I think that would make an awesome replacement.
Nifty!
Erico: That looks good, but lose the square at the base of the white square. I do however think it loses the simplicity of the original logo. It is however much more professional - which GLBasic has become since its humble origins.
Could you create a logo that doesn't include the "BASIC FOR GAMERS" sub-title? GLB is used for far more than just games and doesn't really need that strapline any more. IMHO.
that square is a result for fast placing things, gone now.
this is a more closer to original perspective.
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I do actually like that new one more. Nice one.
Quote from: Ian Price on 2011-Mar-16
I do however think it loses the simplicity of the original logo.
Could you create a logo that doesn't include the "BASIC FOR GAMERS" sub-title?
the current is fine, I just don't quite enjoy the lettering. All good logos should be reduced to simple black and white shape form. Agree that "BASIC FOR GAMERS" should be gone, better "BASIC FOR LIFE" hehe :P but that is redundant with glbasic so none at all is a fit!
I was thinking of a logo to sit on the page's corner. So something a little more spiced up that could fit a new page's visual.
I really enjoy PoUET logos, refresh the page and you get a new one:
http://www.pouet.net/
but I guess it's out of the question for this case...
...good references though
Those PoUET logos are pretty cool :)
I like your latest design erico, but I also loved your more shiny / glass look also! :good:
Can the colour choices for the cubes be changed, or are we standing firm with the original logo colours?
I think replacing the white cube (and perhaps the cyan) with a more colourful red, purple, or orange may look good.
Quote from: Slydog on 2011-Mar-16
Can the colour choices for the cubes be changed, or are we standing firm with the original logo colours?
I think replacing the white cube (and perhaps the cyan) with a more colourful red, purple, or orange may look good.
current colors are quite cold and there are quite a lot
A change of colour could be good. Every game I've ever written has had a rainbow (or the colours) in it somewhere, so I suggest - err... rainbow colours! :P
I like the new logo idea and the look of the last one although I think it should be like glass. It still falls to Kitty to approve and use of course.
Quote from: XanthorXIII on 2011-Mar-16
I like the new logo idea and the look of the last one although I think it should be like glass.
glass causes refractions, make for more information.
also tryed a smoothed reflection with no transparency, white bkg.
rearranged some cubes to match the original format
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The bottom one would be good as an icon, especially if it was more than the one size (XP should really have 48 x 48, 32 x 32 and 16 x 16 icons. 64 x 64 and 256 x 256 are needed for Vista/Windows 7
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa511280.aspx
Quote from: erico on 2011-Mar-16
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I like that one best. Rounded corners are the best. My old image was also rendered, but I lost the render program and then could not make high-res images anymore. So I re-painted it using Corel Draw to get a vector image of the cubes:
(http://www.glbasic.com/gfx/glbasic-logo.svg)
It would be cool to have a png with a transparent background for use.
thinking on a page layout + logo that matches it, I came up with this so far...
...platform icons and language, as well as general position of objects will change,
what do you guys think?
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What's MultiplatAform? :P ;)
It looks nice and clean, but the font's not quite right.
Perhaps there should be a hyphon between Multi and Platform too?
Quote from: Ian Price on 2011-Mar-17
What's MultiplatAform? :P ;)
those are really special class A platforms! glbasic works with many typos of plataforms hehe :P
fonts are not the specialty of the house, I was thinking of creating a new one based on the displayed one,
any suggestions ? what about the hyphon? should I use it?
some color test, this could go on forever...
suggestions?
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Like the logo.
Its certainly eye-catching. Its probably a bit too bright though.
Quote from: MrTAToad on 2011-Mar-18
Like the logo.
Its certainly eye-catching. Its probably a bit too bright though.
bright? oh mine, it seems a little dark here actually. Do you mean the highlights?
I Tried to come up with a logo that doesn't look 100% render. Looks a little crafted.
It sure has to be something you wanna touch...
Glad you liked it.
Any suggestions on the font?
Whats glbsaic's original font?
erico, they are fantastic general designs. Sorry I'm late to the thread.
Although the logo is nice, I've wondered about the concept of displaying the cubes in 3D code, preferably object or light animated. Can what is drawn in paint vector be reproduced, or at least in 2D?
Quote from: matchy on 2011-Mar-18
erico, they are fantastic general designs. Sorry I'm late to the thread.
Although the logo is nice, I've wondered about the concept of displaying the cubes in 3D code, preferably object or light animated. Can what is drawn in paint vector be reproduced, or at least in 2D?
Logo comes out of lightwave 3d as a PSD(photoshop) composition, ground and its shadows comes from another rendered file. This file can become anything 2d, PNG+alpha etc.
I have the object as an object file layered: 5 cubes(each with its own surface name),studio(ground).
They are positioned inside lightwave's layout (scene file). They are lighted there too, mainly radiosity from a gradient background+attack linear light to produce the lighter areas+general areal light to produce depth and shadows.
Textures are all procedural, mainly basic surface settings and a fractal bump map to produce the tone changing sides.
To get to a similar result in real time code, textures should be baked on the poligons(UV), you would have to deal the specular highlights inside the code. shadow too.
what do you have in mind?
I think the website uses a font called "ShadowH1a" or could be the style... I think the font used would be better as either Arial or Helvetical.
I think the yellow part is a bit too bright - starts with a slightly light green or so.
Quote from: erico on 2011-Mar-18
To get to a similar result in real time code, textures should be baked on the poligons(UV), you would have to deal the specular highlights inside the code. shadow too.
what do you have in mind?
=D
Although not directly related to the website design, by example I think a logo consistancy would need to be transferable in different mediums, such as print where colouring may be limited, like for a buisness card or t-shirt. :P
So in this case, perhaps you could post two images? For example a (greyscale) texture map and a (greyscale) bump map for one cube side. This way we could experiment on lighting and animation in code for splash screens. ;)
Quote from: matchy on 2011-Mar-18
Although not directly related to the website design, by example I think a logo consistancy would need to be transferable in different mediums, such as print where colouring may be limited, like for a buisness card or t-shirt. :P
So in this case, perhaps you could post two images? For example a (greyscale) texture map and a (greyscale) bump map for one cube side. This way we could experiment on lighting and animation in code for splash screens. ;)
Current logo consistency is fine. The original PSD composed can become all needed logos for all mediuns, cmyk print, and so on.
Reduced versions, clean colors ou 2 color mode black or white background is also possible. If such a logo is approved to use, I can render the variations. no prob.
I didn't quite understand what you mean on the second paragraph.
you need the texture +bump of one of the cubes side in bw? I figure you mean to copy it over the other sides and colorize in code?
I will see to bake one of the cubes, have the object, uv bump, uv texture in bw.
I see there is someone on another thread needing exactly this to test importing and so on of lightwave objects so I may as well have it done for that too.
Quote from: MrTAToad on 2011-Mar-18
I think the website uses a font called "ShadowH1a" or could be the style... I think the font used would be better as either Arial or Helvetical.
I think the yellow part is a bit too bright - starts with a slightly light green or so.
thanks will check those fonts...helvetica is the universal design font hehe, could be used.
I think the best would be to set a font reference and create a new one over.
yellow part? you mean the background degradee or the yellow cube?
anyway , for the logo, all colors are tuned on an extra layer in photoshop and are very well controlled.
The background degradee is just a test, white seems to put more value on the logo in my opinion hehe
Matchy, just posted a ZIP file containing:
cube object in lightwave format
cube object in obj format
bump texture
color texture
for some reason when I export the obj and re import it again to check the uvmap comes up f...ed up.
I will have to see to export it in a different way if its not working.
I posted the ZIP file on this thread ( Blender export filter for GLBasic .dda):
http://www.glbasic.com/forum/index.php?topic=216.15
Is that what you need? let me know how the OBJ and is UV works out.
Trying out fonts for glbasic logo I came into this nice online tool to help choose font, thought to share it:
http://wordmark.it/
if you work with design ou web page or anything graphical, this is a must
Very handy!
I like the new design. The white/glass one.
The font was Babylon5, find it attached.
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Good font. Shame the program itself wasn't given the support it needed :)
have the logo in several resolutions:
6000x4000 (can print in your wall... =D)
1280x853
512x341
it's in PNG + alpha for the shadow.
No text, just the cubes.
Let me know if it's ok or usefull.
Should it be in higher resolution? square cut? change anything?
Gernot, send me an email to ericomont at googlething
if you thing anything should change,or have any idea about.
PS... it seems the forum can only hold files to ~6mb, so here goes the 2 smaller ones, the higher one has to be emailed or I can post a sendspace link, what do you prefer?
PS2... Matchy, did the things 3d I sent you worked out? was that what you needed?
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very nice!
Nice. :)
Any chance of the model with a thick black line around it (sort of toon/cel shading) like the logo at the top of the site? Any chance of seeing the same outlined blocks with and without the background shadow?
lol. I thought the very same and put a black frame around it. What do you think?
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We are all so used to that black border by now so it's supposed to be there :-)
Very nice looking both of them.
Yep. The black border does the job perfectly.
=D
Quoteto be honest, I think that a black perimeter removes a lot of the 3D perception, it really 'flattens' the image.
I like it best without the accented outline.
I think that proves that you can't please everyone all the time :P
I think the black border works. I'd say go for it. I would like to use the new logo in my game as part of the Powered by. Maybe someone can make up a Powered By Logo for us to use.... :whistle:
http://www.glbasic.com/forum/index.php?topic=5688.msg44759#msg44759 (http://www.glbasic.com/forum/index.php?topic=5688.msg44759#msg44759) powered by - logo
I love the new logo, is a good update.
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Quote from: Ian Price on 2011-Mar-30
Quoteto be honest, I think that a black perimeter removes a lot of the 3D perception, it really 'flattens' the image.
I like it best without the accented outline.
I think that proves that you can't please everyone all the time :P
That's right - ;)
I agree, but it dosen't flatten it 100%. The black outline keeps everything tied.
I think it looks great on the site :)
me too for sure ;/.
I wondered what you were all talking about. It looked exactly the same to me........and then..........press refresh you goon!! ::)
Quote from: Kitty Hello on 2011-Mar-30
http://www.glbasic.com/forum/index.php?topic=5688.msg44759#msg44759 (http://www.glbasic.com/forum/index.php?topic=5688.msg44759#msg44759) powered by - logo
Thanks Kitty!!!
QuoteThe font was Babylon5
Our town/city just got a new armored vehicle (big news for a small city I guess), and the lettering font they used looks very familiar . . . (see first photo)
Yes, apparently Canada now has crime! :doubt: :whip: (Essar is where I work, ya!)
http://essarsteelalgoma.blogspot.com/2011/03/essars-steel-keeps-officers-safe.html (http://essarsteelalgoma.blogspot.com/2011/03/essars-steel-keeps-officers-safe.html)
Quote from: Slydog on 2011-Apr-05
QuoteThe font was Babylon5
Our town/city just got a new armored vehicle (big news for a small city I guess), and the lettering font they used looks very familiar . . .
Really nice armored vehicle, does it run android too?
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ok, so Canada is no place to go, either.
Only leaves Florida and Hawaii as a choice XD
Have you seen how violent and crime filled the new Hawaii Five-0 is? I would cross that country off your list if it's even remotely similar! :P
How about Nebraska? :good:
[EDIT] Oops. Pressed EDIT, not QUOTE by mistake.
You could also try Rio de Janeiro... it's said to be a peaceful place with no crime at all! :P
Quote from: XanthorXIII on 2011-Apr-06
How about Nebraska? :good:
I know someone that got mugged by a prarie dog in Nebraska... trufax.
OK; digging this old thread up again. I made some slight colour changes on the main site you might have noticed.
The main thing I'm working on is a showroom/slideshow thing with the awesomenest projects. Here's what I've got so far:
http://www.glbasic.com/main.php?lang=de&site=test (http://www.glbasic.com/main.php?lang=de&site=test)
I think I should integrate it with the showroom and extend that so it can link to app stores. Moru told me he started remaking the showroom using MYQSL (I use old fashined ini files for about everything :/ )
That looks cool. Is there a limit to the number of files/images that can be scrolled?
Yes, it does look good...
Nah. No limit. Ill post the link later.
what about those formats that shows individual screens with little dots/numbers that skip to others?
I think the title on the main site could do with being another colour other than white - its a bit hard to read.
FREAK!
No, realy nice work!
works fine but should updated /rotated automatically#
I can re-design the front site if you like - as long as you dont mind WebPlus X4 generate site...
it's my own code with php. I don't want to break compatibility.
It's sort of a mini CMS I did there. It all ties a bit together. I also want to bind the showroom into the main page, so the programs with a 3.5+ rating are shown. Maybe.
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Good Afternoon, My name is XXXX XXXXXXXXX and I'm a web developer and general programmer, I was looking at GLBasic for some game projects I'm hoping to work on sometime in the future.
But I noticed your site if far from adequate, it looks very unprofessional and post 1990's in style.
I'm hoping to perhaps assist you in upgrading this site so that it's more professional and perhaps have more features if you require.
[...]
YES, POUR SALT IN THE WOULDS!!!
:D ouch!
It looks post 1990's because it is actually post 1990's :P
It's perfectly adequate for the users. This guy would say anything to get a few (hundred) Euros out of you.
=D Very good point Ian. I missed that. Of course its post 90's.
Yes, I think so too. But I really should find time to polish it a bit and insert stuff from the showroom to the main page and have iphone games in the showroom, too.
Good luck with finding the time ;)
That's a form mail, I keep getting them too. Also getting people calling and saying similar stuff.