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Title: HP webOS/App Catalog OFFICIALLY DEAD.
Post by: Ian Price on 2014-Oct-16
Got this email today from HP

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webOS Cloud Services to end January 15, 2015
Cloud services support for webOS devices will end on January 15, 2015. We appreciate the effort that our developer community has contributed to the webOS platform. However, it has been more than three (3) years since the last device was sold. Since only a small fraction of the devices are still connecting to our cloud, the time has come to close the services.

The remaining webOS devices will continue to run after the cloud services are terminated. However, they will no longer be able to:

    Download new apps or updates. The HP App Catalog will be unavailable after the shutdown
    Backup or restore devices from the cloud
    Setup new devices
    Recover lost passwords

What this means to developers

    As of the date of this announcement, no new apps can be submitted to the HP App Catalog
    You can submit updates to the HP App Catalog until November 10, 2014
    Sales will be allowed until November 1st, 2014 in order to give users ample time to access apps prior to the shutdown. Note that the front page of the HP App Catalog will have an announcement about the impending shutdown
    Developers will need to access the Developer Portal before it is shut down on January 15, 2015, to access and download final sales reports, etc.
    Final developer payouts are expected to be made by February 15, 2015

There will be additional reminders as the final shutdown approaches. An FAQ can be found at
http://news.hpwebosnewsletters.com/cgi-bin13/DM/t/hBlrg0cW65u0PwO04W5L0Ew

Timeline

    10/15/14    Announcement to users and developers. No new app submissions
    11/1/14      New app purchases end
    11/10/14    App update submissions end
    1/15/15      Public shutdown of services


HP webOS Cloud Services

So long and thanks for all the fish  :'(
Title: Re: HP webOS/App Catalog OFFICIALLY DEAD.
Post by: Marmor on 2014-Oct-16
well i use my pre only some days in the month but now its dead.

:nw: to webos
:shit: to HP

anyway i install android 4.4.2 on the touchpad and kill the webos partition.
Title: Re: HP webOS/App Catalog OFFICIALLY DEAD.
Post by: MrTAToad on 2014-Oct-16
I'm surprised it has taken so long for them to finally admit its dead :)

I think its time for webOS compilation to be removed now.
Title: Re: HP webOS/App Catalog OFFICIALLY DEAD.
Post by: Ian Price on 2014-Oct-16
I tend to agree, despite the fact that webOS compilation has no current issues - I compiled a universal app just recently without any problems.

webOS products are still used and there is still a market for them though. I still use my Pre2 every single day. I'm rather attached to it, so I don't look forward to the day I have to give it up.
Title: Re: HP webOS/App Catalog OFFICIALLY DEAD.
Post by: spacefractal on 2014-Oct-16
sadly, yes. but since no channels can been used for sell webos or even doing things free, then there is no reason to support webos from glbasic at all. That even its was one of them that was quite free from various issues.

Im did instaled android 4.2 on my HP Touchpad for few month ago and have even wiped webOS out.

Mightbeen we should look for OS like Tizen or WebOS TV such instead for a replacement for WebOS? Im would most perfer Windows Phone 8, but that might not been possible.

Also OS-X_uni can also save to been removed, which is not supported for many years from apple.
Title: Re: HP webOS/App Catalog OFFICIALLY DEAD.
Post by: Marmor on 2014-Oct-16
osx uni isnt in long time .
Title: Re: HP webOS/App Catalog OFFICIALLY DEAD.
Post by: Ian Price on 2014-Oct-16
{QUOTE] but since no channels can been used for sell webos or even doing things free, then there is no reason to support webos from glbasic at all. That even its was one of them that was quite free from various issues.
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Actually there are a number of ways to sell and give away your stuff. Try webOSNation for furher info. PreWare is one example. Also you can host and sell/give away your stuff yourself and/or include a "Donate" button.
Title: Re: HP webOS/App Catalog OFFICIALLY DEAD.
Post by: Marmor on 2014-Oct-16
ian is right , why killing webos from glbasic , i mean gernot has no problems with to do this later .
Title: Re: HP webOS/App Catalog OFFICIALLY DEAD.
Post by: Paul Smith on 2014-Oct-16
didn't LG buy/Licence  WebOS from HP and use it in all there TVs?
Title: Re: HP webOS/App Catalog OFFICIALLY DEAD.
Post by: Marmor on 2014-Oct-16
its modified , nobody knows anything.
Title: Re: HP webOS/App Catalog OFFICIALLY DEAD.
Post by: spacefractal on 2014-Oct-16
webos as we known is official dead now and im dont thinks the unofficial do a really good job. Preware could been used, but its more used as a utility, not for games.

Im do thinks we needs some clean up:

OS-X_uni
WebOS
Palm-Pixi
WebCE
Win32-dll (does anybody really uses this platform? Here basics like Purebasic is so much better to create dlls than glbasic).

Howover im do thinks those platforms could still been added as a external downloads eventuelly for those who want to use it for various reasons and they still can compile and can works.

But since we have HTML 5 support (even its might not been fully complete), we could do something like this (PhoneGap):
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/hh771462.aspx

to get Windows Phone platform running, just do doing a internal wrapper. Its of course not good as native, but that is much better than nothing. Same with example Chrome OS and such. But Android and iOS should of course still been native because its possible and other platforms that supports openGL.
Title: Re: HP webOS/App Catalog OFFICIALLY DEAD.
Post by: MrTAToad on 2014-Oct-16
Plus, you would need an expensive TV :)
Title: Re: HP webOS/App Catalog OFFICIALLY DEAD.
Post by: hardyx on 2014-Oct-20
I can't download any apps :(, but today it isn't november 1st yet!!
Title: Re: HP webOS/App Catalog OFFICIALLY DEAD.
Post by: MrTAToad on 2014-Oct-21
HP cant even get shutdown dates correct :)
Title: Re: HP webOS/App Catalog OFFICIALLY DEAD.
Post by: Ian Price on 2014-Oct-21
Finally time to Androidify my TP methinks.

:(
Title: Re: HP webOS/App Catalog OFFICIALLY DEAD.
Post by: MrTAToad on 2014-Oct-21
It was a lovely system too - shame nothing much came of the London meeting - I wonder if they had decided to shutdown webOS before then...
Title: Re: HP webOS/App Catalog OFFICIALLY DEAD.
Post by: hardyx on 2014-Oct-22
I can download apps, but I get error when I install it. I don't know why. O_O

It's a pitty such awesome operative system and devices was throw to the trash by HP.
Palm joined a powerful OS like Apple and the easy of developing apps like Android.
Title: Re: HP webOS/App Catalog OFFICIALLY DEAD.
Post by: bigsofty on 2014-Oct-22
I never tried it but everyone I've heard talk about it sang its praises. A real pity.  :(
Title: Re: HP webOS/App Catalog OFFICIALLY DEAD.
Post by: MrTAToad on 2014-Oct-22
Yes, it was pretty good..
Title: Re: HP webOS/App Catalog OFFICIALLY DEAD.
Post by: erico on 2014-Oct-22
Yep...which is ahard thing to come by when hardware.
Title: Re: HP webOS/App Catalog OFFICIALLY DEAD.
Post by: MrTAToad on 2014-Oct-24
Certainly is!
Title: Re: HP webOS/App Catalog OFFICIALLY DEAD.
Post by: Ian Price on 2014-Oct-30
http://uk.ign.com/articles/2014/10/30/hp-details-the-3d-focused-sprout

I can already predict where this will go...
Title: Re: HP webOS/App Catalog OFFICIALLY DEAD.
Post by: erico on 2014-Oct-30
yep, read about, I´d have to check its performance to see if it is an usable gear for creative work. I have some doubts.
The projector above looks clumsy, here I´d wish they resolved the projection in a different way. Would be nice if it was something like the computer in another world. :P
Overall, it seems to be a good combination of features normally acquired apart.

Critic aside, it looks really interesting as a multi-functional computer(yeah, an all-in-one solution).