Hi guys I comment this for if anyone wants buy , not for Glbasic for now, but for another soft or simply for change or have another phone terminal.
Really I think iOS it's worst than Phone8, it's easy, all very clean, and the device runs like a charm, very very quick...
The really good point it's the price, about 80E (for me cost about 100 for postmail) front the 600E of iPhone, 3d Graphics awesome, the games don't ralentize, the size it's like a phone, not a Tv in your pocket.
The model I bought it's the Lumia 520, I read it's a Super - Sell device , seems Microsoft done rigth the work with this device.
I know for only a bit more you have more powerfull models of Lumia but I thnk for do games It's always better have a don't very powerfull device for compatibility with better phones .
Only I wanna comment for if anyone are choicing between some devices or not are sure with another Android or iPhone, this it's a ver very good choice.
It is a pretty good phone - pretty fast too.
What's happend to your nick MrT?¿
Windows phone has a 2.5% market share. Last year that was 3.4%. However I believe small market share means the owners are more willing to spend money to buy games and apps to support. And less competition on content on the store. :-)
its would been nice if glbasic could support Windows Phone, because its now possible to uses c++ with Windows iPhone 8, but howover its does require fair bit of software and not all might not been free (just like xCode requirement for iOS).
I can confirm, Windows Phone is really nice to use. My father bought a Lumia phone a couple of weeks before. I recommended it. He never used smartphones before and he's very satisfied with it. As a phone I would prefer that but for Android development I always need an Android device.
WP8 development would be interesting too but because of the tiny market share it makes absolutely no sense.
Bugs it still bigger than example ouya etc. So I'm thinks smaller market would been ideel for us indie markers and would been nice to dev a game to that. I'm do sure iOS/android is much faster render in games, but typical games we make should not been a trouble.
Of course the biggers market can keen Asia.
I'm would even pay this as a extra eventuelly.
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What's happend to your nick MrT?¿
I had a quick name change!
I think like yours guys perhaps the share couta of devices it's very little, but for a single developer can be a nice economic quantity, iPhone and Android I think it's practically imposible gain money. Perhaps Badda and Meego can be another nice place I think Meego it's called another way.
About develop, really it's super easy something similar to Palm Pre, really confortable put a app into the phone, I'm not sure but I think with Visual Studio 2013 Express you can upload the app to the device.
TheMapChap :good: , ok but I continue calling MrT :)
Fair enough :)
glbasic supports various minor platforms, so that why this platform could been very cool, even windows 8 and Visual Studio 2013 Express is required.
It uses DirectX for GFX, I think... Thats a huge change.
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There is a SDL2 version for Windows phone coming along.
If GLBasic were possible for this phone then it would be very cool. :good: Maybe the next generation will have opengl. :-[
I read a about this "Angle project", I think it's like a translator between OpenGL and DirectX I read in a post comment it's the better way for port a game to Windows phone Platform.
Seriously? Windows phone has such a small market share and may even get abandoned by MS in future; it would need a huge change in GLBasic core, while Gernot only has small amounts of time for all GLBasic related development - and you ask for support for this platform? Sometimes I cant understand peoples priorities...
This could be exactly my own words! I fully agree. Thank you! WP support for GLBasic is nonsense and I'm sure we don't have to fear, Gernot will break his leg thereon.
I also have Lumia 520, but I'm more critical about it. Windows Phone have some issues, that makes this system less mature than competitors.
First release of WP8 didn't support radio, this feature was added in on of first updates, before WP8.1 volume control was combined (ringtones + multimedia as one), in WP8.1 that was finally changed, there are also other known problems e.g. MMS sending without enabling data-packages (this may vary from country/operator), and so on..
But as we know M$ bought Nokia, and all signs on earth shows that it will support this system - Windows Phone for a long time.
Some results of the acquisition: since 1 January 2014 Symbian S60 apps can't be updated on Nokia Store, only Symbian S40 (Asha series) app are still supported, some Sybmian S60 services are being closed, Nokia will not develop S60 phones, only S40 (Asha series) on emerging markets, no further other system base phones - Nokia X was made/designed when terms weren't in force.
Windows Phone 8.1 support hardware accelerated canvas element in html5, with full? WebGL support, this may be usefully for us, when GLB export to html5/webgl will be done. Still if I read correctly, desktop Win8 is required to compile with VS for WP8.1? :/
And it's not about how huge share particular system has, but how much $ you get get from it, therefore WP as additional system (even through html5) would be great.
The main advantage with Windows Phone is it is currently small, so anything you do is bound to get noticed - this was great with webOS.
It would also be a small step to having a Windows App as well, which would then reach Windows Surface users.
Unfortunately, whilst there is SDL2 available for the Phone, its still in beta stage at the moment.
Quote from: TheMapChap on 2014-Oct-07
so anything you do is bound to get noticed - this was great with webOS.
If only that were true. Unfortunately it isn't. It also isn't true of OUYA, GameStick or ANY minor markets.
I've a special question to the operation of the standard music player in Windows Phone 8.1! My father would like to use it but we weren't able to get the saved files appear. I read it's possible to playback .wav files and as a classical music fan my father needs perfect audio quality. Can anyone confirm that .wav files are supported in WP 8.1? The way to copy the music files to the SD card in the music folder is right? The instruction file from microsoft says that but why weren't any files in the music app?
Yes, WAV works.
Have you installed the Files app ? You may need to use that rather than Music to find (and play) WAV files as they may not show in Music
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Quote from: TheMapChap on 2014-Oct-07
so anything you do is bound to get noticed - this was great with webOS.
If only that were true. Unfortunately it isn't. It also isn't true of OUYA, GameStick or ANY minor markets.
Oh I dont know - Spots! had a pretty good response - far better than Android.
QuoteYes, WAV works.
Have you installed the Files app ? You may need to use that rather than Music to find (and play) WAV files as they may not show in Music
Oh, good. I understand not quite right... you mean, I need a kind of file manager to browse that music files directly and then select it to play? Hm, this is a solution but I as a user would expect that the music app is able to find it automatically. At least it should be possible to add these files once and have them in a playlist.
It looks like the standard Music player cant find/player WAV, though doing it through Find is no problem... I presume WAV's aren't treated as songs :)
Changing the platform and I can say it's a very good phone, it's the "Doogee Valencia" , ok it's a Chinesse phone but really it's a monster for only 90E + or - , this in DX in example , the problem of buy phones in this shops it's the guarantee , you only have one year, in your country perhaps find this kind of phones a bit more expensive, but not too much.
I think Chinnese mobiles it's a market to keep looking , in example in Spain a lot of Android devices are Chinesse, really they do a very good work and some devices are more powerfull than a Galaxy or practically are the same for the half or minus price.
About this I can say it's a good phone, very very quick and the screen it's a bit great, but not the new mode of the phablets, seems you have in the pocket a TV.
Turning again to Microsoft phone, it's a nice phone for the price... The S.O rebenber me a bit to Pam Pres system , I think a good point it's how you free the memory of app, in iPhone and Android it's too much complex if you don't use some app. But in comparation with the actual devices really it's a little charactestics device.
Quote from: Ian Price on 2014-Oct-07...It also isn't true of OUYA, GameStick or ANY minor markets.
Good reasoning; drawing a comparison between a behemoth like Microsoft, with year-old, crowd-funded start-ups. :D
Looking at market coverage, why not? =D
After burning my first chinese surfpad knockoff (yes, BURNED) I don't dare to buy the cheap china-stuff any more. Killed the fuses in the house but nothing more luckily.
Tip: Make sure stuff has the C E branding. Note the space between the C and the E. Ours had the two letters next to each other which means China Export believe it or not...
Quote from: mentalthink on 2014-Oct-08...it's the "Doogee Valencia" , ok it's a Chinesse phone but really it's a monster for only 90E + or -...
Technically speaking, almost all mobile phones are manufactured in China. But while some China brands are already market leaders, like
HTC, others are gaining quite formidably. Here's the
Doogee you mentioned, along with
Oppo and
OnePlus, both of which have received rave reviews, achieving scores at par on even higher than the big names.
Oppo has even developed its own UI over Android, known as the
ColorOS, while the
OnePlus 1 uses the well-known
CyanogenMod. Seriously impressive.
Engadget Review of Oppo's Find 7 (http://www.engadget.com/products/oppo/find/7/)
Engadget's Review of the OnePlus 1 (http://www.engadget.com/products/oneplus/one/)
Quote from: TheMapChapIt looks like the standard Music player cant find/player WAV, though doing it through Find is no problem... I presume WAV's aren't treated as songs :)
Then I'll consider to try lossless WMA!
Ofcourse everything is made in china nowadays. But there is a difference between those that are made on license and those products that are made in the same factory after the production has moved. Then they switch to cheaper components and cut corners to make a cheaper product to outsell the product they just made on order.
Quote from: Moru on 2014-Oct-08
Ofcourse everything is made in china nowadays....
Inside my amiga 4k was a feast of korea / china microchips, so as pretty much all my ancient electro gears.
I kind of believe all this was always made over there, it is just more known these days.
People bring these strange ideas about slave work and low quality, but seriously they produce both high and low quality, but importers from other countries usually buy the low quality to rebrand and profit and thus create this concept, so it is not a China problem. The ´slaves´kind of don´t fit too if you consider the value convertion of the currencies and power of aquisition it has on china, like if you convert that salary to dollars it may look like slave work, but that money actually is enough to live ok on China´s economy and prices and so on.
Also, I´m not sure microsoft will drop the mobile bone, I doubt it.
Certanly I agree the moment is more likely better for working out what GLB currently supports and wait a while till microsoft matures a bit more.
Like what they did with the console marketing, I believe they may use the same strategy to get in.
I've got Amiga Forever emulator (with licensed ROMs now), mainly because it was time to get it :)
Got a video showing the C64 and Amiga versions of Outrun Europa : http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x27jjf9_c64-v-amiga-version-of-outrun-europa_videogames (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x27jjf9_c64-v-amiga-version-of-outrun-europa_videogames). The Amiga part was done before I worked out how to get it running in full screen with decent sound.
Nice vid(s) :)
Can get the Amiga into full screen without mucking around with the sound too much now. Got this one with Afterburner now : http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x27jxc3_c64-v-amiga-version-of-afterburner-activision-version_videogames (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x27jxc3_c64-v-amiga-version-of-afterburner-activision-version_videogames)
Uau! that c64 version of outrun europa is amazing! :o
I have never seen it, it has a neat way to draw the road without having to use curves but something like a set of tiles. really good teknic to look closer!
There are better examples really - Turbocharge being rather better with split tracks