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Title: Anyone sorted out FB connection etc.
Post by: Omadan on 2011-Jun-19
Anyone has connected ios apps with FaceBook for posting scores etc. I don't think its still been done. Anyone can shed some light once and for all. My app is ready and just need that, its a shame it can't be done :(.


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It's done. See here:
http://www.glbasic.com/forum/index.php?topic=6585.0 (http://www.glbasic.com/forum/index.php?topic=6585.0)
Title: Re: Anyone sorted out FB connection etc.
Post by: MrTAToad on 2011-Jun-19
The problem is the security system - it requires OAuth which is a secure socket system.
Title: Re: Anyone sorted out FB connection etc.
Post by: Moru on 2011-Jun-20
Can't you put up the communication on your homepage->facebook and send requests from the app to your homepage? Haven't looked much at facebook so have no clue really...
Title: Re: Anyone sorted out FB connection etc.
Post by: Kitty Hello on 2011-Jun-20
Write a tiny php script that does this, and I'll host it on glbasic.com.
Title: Re: Anyone sorted out FB connection etc.
Post by: MrTAToad on 2011-Jun-20
Yes, I think Moru should do that :) Would be very handy.  If you could also do one for Twitter that would be great too!
Title: Re: Anyone sorted out FB connection etc.
Post by: Moru on 2011-Jun-20
Aw, but I hate facebook and twitter! I don't even have any accounts :-)

(But yes I like to program, will have to look into it I guess :-)
Title: Re: Anyone sorted out FB connection etc.
Post by: Kitty Hello on 2011-Jun-20
I think about quitting facebook as well. I saw some TV show about it lately that really shocked me.
Title: Re: Anyone sorted out FB connection etc.
Post by: djtoon on 2011-Jun-20
facebook its very important for app marketing people
Title: Re: Anyone sorted out FB connection etc.
Post by: Moebius on 2011-Jun-20
Isn't facebook wonderful?  Grant my app permissions, and I can view everything you do and post to your wall with a php script  :good:
Title: Re: Anyone sorted out FB connection etc.
Post by: Moru on 2011-Jun-20
Yes, here in sweden they make a big ruccus every time a politician gets caught "likeing" or joining some facebook group. But what I heard it's not even needed to join a group yourself, the creater of that group can join you if you are friends or something like that... Not to mention when you give my app access, I can dump all your friends email and phonenumbers and sell them to adverticement firms or book $1 every week for "mmorpg merchandise" or whatever. :-) Well, it used to be possible at least, mabe security is higher now? :-)
Title: Re: Anyone sorted out FB connection etc.
Post by: Omadan on 2011-Jun-20
So whos gona be the one to write the php script to do all this? I have tried but with no luck. Not very php skilled I am afraid.
Come on who ever does it will be my hero. I am a super sexy blonde.  :-[
Title: Re: Anyone sorted out FB connection etc.
Post by: Kitty Hello on 2011-Jun-20
Quote from: Omadan on 2011-Jun-20
I am a super sexy blonde.  :-[
(http://bredewoud.nl/Chatters.jpg)
Title: Re: Anyone sorted out FB connection etc.
Post by: Sokurah on 2011-Jun-20
Quote from: Serpent on 2011-Jun-20
Isn't facebook wonderful?  Grant my app permissions, and I can view everything you do and post to your wall with a php script  :good:

But the solution to that is very simple: don't allow applications to access your information. You do get a choice to say yes or no.

Personally I think I've only allowed 2 apps access to my info, but whenever I come across something that wants it too, I just categorically say no. Problem solved. ;)

But yeah, it shouldn't really be an issue.
Title: Re: Anyone sorted out FB connection etc.
Post by: matchy on 2011-Jun-20
Quote from: Omadan on 2011-Jun-20
Come on who ever does it will be my hero.
:zzz:
Title: Re: Anyone sorted out FB connection etc.
Post by: Omadan on 2011-Jun-21
Hehe...
Anyone working on this. I am trying but all this FB shit is beyond me. I would really be grateful if someone could manage this. It would be beneficiary for all. :good:
Title: Re: Anyone sorted out FB connection etc.
Post by: erico on 2011-Jun-21
Quote from: Kitty Hello on 2011-Jun-20
I think about quitting facebook as well. I saw some TV show about it lately that really shocked me.

What could that be?
Title: Re: Anyone sorted out FB connection etc.
Post by: Omadan on 2011-Jun-22
Anyone working on this? I really need for my game  :nw:
Title: Re: Anyone sorted out FB connection etc.
Post by: matchy on 2011-Jun-23
Quote from: erico on 2011-Jun-21
Quote from: Kitty Hello on 2011-Jun-20
I think about quitting facebook as well. I saw some TV show about it lately that really shocked me.
What could that be?

Yeah! What's could be so shocking on TV?
Title: Re: Anyone sorted out FB connection etc.
Post by: bigsofty on 2011-Jun-23
From a commercial point of view I do see the necessity of using the social network but from a personal point of view I void them due problems I had in the past. I feel like a troll who lives in a cave (or is that a Luddite?) sometimes because of this!   :D
Title: Re: Anyone sorted out FB connection etc.
Post by: Sokurah on 2011-Jun-23
Quote from: bigsofty on 2011-Jun-23
From a commercial point of view I do see the necessity of using the social network but from a personal point of view I void them due problems I had in the past. I feel like a troll who lives in a cave (or is that a Luddite?) sometimes because of this!   :D

I know exactly how you feel. "Apparently" users expect these options these days, but personally I'm not using the OpenFeint and GameCenter options in games, and nor will you catch me posting how well I'm doing, to Twitter or Facebook. But we're all different of course.

I may put the options into a game...y'know...once I actually make something for iOS, but even then I'll probably make new Twitter and Facebook accounts just so I don't have to get those posts on my "normal" accounts.
Title: Re: Anyone sorted out FB connection etc.
Post by: erico on 2011-Jun-23
I guess most people around here is above the 30 years old, so (we) really don´t bother these things.
They are popular on younger generations I guess, I use it once in a while, and are quite good on the ´work´ field.
Title: Re: Anyone sorted out FB connection etc.
Post by: Omadan on 2011-Jun-23
I am over 30 myself. But younger people I know who have my app or have written to me have told me about posting to Facebook. So there you go. I hate facebook myself
but its not what you want, but what they want. Give them what they want and your app will rise.  :D simple.

It seems no one really is after this I'll try see what I can do.

The InApp purchase is another thing I see as a way forward. I see it in like almost every app, even the paid ones. Where you offer extra contents etc. Sorry for been
a pain but all this won't help me but all of us.
Thanks
Title: Re: Anyone sorted out FB connection etc.
Post by: Crivens on 2011-Jun-23
Quotewhat they want
Yep. Everyone who tried my app (wide range of ages) all said (after saying would be better with naked women) it would be good to link to FB/Twitter somehow. Personally I don't give a monkeys but it seem a lot of people do.

QuoteInApp purchase is another thing I see as a way forward
Yep. I hardly ever use it, but kids love it. Plus one game I played (Coin dozer) was so rubbish, but somehow dragged me in and I came so close to paying a few quid to get loads more coins (play it to see what I mean as it is free. Very clever how it draws you in). Imagine someone with no will power (eg. kids)? Just copying such game designs is a possible goldmine IMHO. Not only that but you just make one free app and then have upgrades to remove ads, add levels, give full functionality etc. Lovely... Don't forget though that Ampos has hinted he has a solution in the works that should be ready very soon, so cross your fingers!

Cheers
Title: Re: Anyone sorted out FB connection etc.
Post by: Omadan on 2011-Jun-23
Indeed. lets see when it gets public, and that it works as intended. Once that is sorted and FB I will be one happy bitxch :P
The rest is just code code and code.
Title: Re: Anyone sorted out FB connection etc.
Post by: Moru on 2011-Jun-25
So what is it you want from a facebook api?
And do you enter some ID and password in the game or what?
Title: Re: Anyone sorted out FB connection etc.
Post by: Omadan on 2011-Jun-25
I want the typical I have seen in many Apps I have played. I'll explain...
You play my app and when you get a high score, you can then post that score into your Facebook profile/wall. This will be seen by all your friends and
therefore attract more people into getting my app automatically.

Obviously once you have posted to facebook with my app you have granted my app the permissions to post and therefore you just insert your user and
password once.

I have seen it in many apps, and the amount of auto marketing that does is insane. I myself hate facebook and very inexperienced with it, but this is
not about what we like but what our audience wants. And the majority are facebook freaks. They just love posting on facebook their latest
scores etc... and we all know that. So our apps need facebook integration in this day and age. And facebook is growing as we speak.
Thanks Moru for your attention.

P.S. I was trying today some php code but seems my server does not support cUrl, so was not working. Again never done this before maybe it's not
even the cUrl thing :)
Title: Re: Anyone sorted out FB connection etc.
Post by: spicypixel on 2011-Jun-26
Anyone planning to hit this head on may find this useful.
https://github.com/facebook/facebook-ios-sdk
Title: Re: Anyone sorted out FB connection etc.
Post by: Omadan on 2011-Jun-26
Thanks Spicy, ye seen that before. Don't know how easy that would be implementing with GlBasic. If someone manages this please let me know. PM me or whatever please. <3
Title: Re: Anyone sorted out FB connection etc.
Post by: Omadan on 2011-Jul-12
Anyone managed to pull this off. I really need the help, my project needs it badly. I have tried and quite lost to be honest.
Title: Re: Anyone sorted out FB connection etc.
Post by: okee on 2011-Jul-13
Re facebook, saw this on family guy the other night which made me laugh

Title: Re: Anyone sorted out FB connection etc.
Post by: spicypixel on 2011-Jul-13
This is beyond my skills but maybe more useful to others.

http://developers.facebook.com/docs/guides/mobile/
Title: Re: Anyone sorted out FB connection etc.
Post by: Kitty Hello on 2011-Jul-13
Did anyone try a simple netwebend with:
Code (glbasic) Select
http://www.facebook.com/dialog/feed?client_id=YOUR_APP_ID&redirect_uri=YOUR_URL&display=touch
Title: Re: Anyone sorted out FB connection etc.
Post by: Omadan on 2011-Jul-13
tried that and many other things. What should I put as the redirect_uri?

I think this is ti creat an app within facebook programmed in a web programming language.
Title: Re: Anyone sorted out FB connection etc.
Post by: spicypixel on 2011-Jul-13
I might have a blast at trying to sort something out with this, but I'll most likely fail :)
Title: Re: Anyone sorted out FB connection etc.
Post by: Omadan on 2011-Jul-13
Spicy if you can sort this out, Ill really appreciate it mate. I've been trying for days and im so lost it hurts.
Title: Re: Anyone sorted out FB connection etc.
Post by: Kitty Hello on 2011-Jul-14
The reply is worth a new thread:
http://www.glbasic.com/forum/index.php?topic=6585.0 (http://www.glbasic.com/forum/index.php?topic=6585.0)
Title: Re: Anyone sorted out FB connection etc.
Post by: BdR on 2011-Jul-14
Quote from: Kitty Hello on 2011-Jun-20
I think about quitting facebook as well. I saw some TV show about it lately that really shocked me.
I'm also very curious, what was that shocking tv report about facebook?

What I personally don't like about facebook (and twitter too I guess, I don't use that) is the total randomness of it all. In my "facebook news updates" I see everything from friend-updates, photo's at the hairdresser, scans of magazines, random news links and obituaries. If the highscores of the games my friends are playing are also posted in there, that would just be another random thing thrown onto a big pile of stuff.
Title: Re: Anyone sorted out FB connection etc.
Post by: Kitty Hello on 2011-Jul-14
thing is - when you visit a site - any site - they might have an iframe with a facebook ad or whatnot. Facebook also knows the sites you visit then.
Some of your "friends" uploads a photo where you are on, too. Some other idiot marks you as "you" -> facebook has a picture of you now.
Facebook logs the ip addresses where you accessed it. So they know pretty exactly when you are where (range of 1000m, aprx for wired connections, less for mobile). They also have that for other people around you. If you're close to someone who watches the same websites/same interests/same friends, they fors some sort of connection.

I really was shocked how many people I really know facebook suggested me when I applied just because of my email address.

It's like a huge world wide catching for transparency in the internet these days. And the bad thing is, that it's not just because of your surf behavior, but also because of the stupidity of people you know. "Mom" is a good example, if you know what I mean.

I mean, it's all fine until they use it for marketing, only. But once there will be a "king" that doesn't like this or that, and you have friends in a group that's suspicious, be prepared for them to knock at your door. George Orwell - 1984, for those who won't believe the Revelation and Daniel's prophecies.

Title: Re: Anyone sorted out FB connection etc.
Post by: Moru on 2011-Jul-14
Facebook is already used extensively for sorting out people when hiring new people in companies all over the world. You didn't get the job not because of what you said but because of what your "friends" think about the company you tried to get a job at.
Title: Re: Anyone sorted out FB connection etc.
Post by: BdR on 2011-Jul-15
@Gernot:
That's a matter of Brave New World vs 1984 (http://www.recombinantrecords.net/docs/2009-05-Amusing-Ourselves-to-Death.html), I think we're much more a "Brave New World" course nowadays.

And about facebook, I think Jaron Lanier said it best in his book "You Are Not A Gadget". He says software and websites and apps etc. should just focus on the actual people who use the software. But that a lot of websites and online efforts are now focussing more and more on algorithms, and are treating people just as parameters in those algorithms (i.e. a herd of adbanner watching sheep).

I agree very much with this, so I would only build in facebook connections if it is really usefull for the users of my app. Not as some trick to get a better score on Google's pageranking algorithm, or Twitter's trending-topics algorithm, or Facebook's EdgeRank algorithm or whatever soulless algorithm they think up next.

//okay end of rant ;/
Title: Re: Anyone sorted out FB connection etc.
Post by: Moru on 2011-Jul-15
The sad part in all this story is that the sheep actually exists in real life and they fall over themselves in the eager to jump on the bandwagon. This forces the developers to adjust to this.
Title: Re: Anyone sorted out FB connection etc.
Post by: mykyl66 on 2011-Jul-16
I agree most of them are sheep. However we as developers would not dream of feeding real world sheep the kinds of foods we like. Instead we feed them grass and pellets as its whats best for them and what they want.

The same applies to customers. You give them what THEY want not what we want. That's how you build a business.

Cheers

Mike R
Title: Re: Anyone sorted out FB connection etc.
Post by: erico on 2011-Jul-17
Quote from: Kitty Hello on 2011-Jul-14
I mean, it's all fine until they use it for marketing, only. But once there will be a "king" that doesn't like this or that, and you have friends in a group that's suspicious, be prepared for them to knock at your door. George Orwell - 1984, for those who won't believe the Revelation and Daniel's prophecies.

Now that is quite deep.
IMHO I don´t believe facebook has this power, google has a lot more into that path, unseen to a lot more people.
It has been more then 10 years my searches(browse) results are controlled...
It is soo funny that some times I spend some time searching for something and using another computer reaches faster into a solution.
Same "word" search produces so much of a different result on different machines it disgust me to the upmost...

I have been using the internet since 1994, you won´t believe (or care) for the changes that had happened around this time.
At the end, I believe newer(and older) generations will crack whathever people can lock into it.

I can see good in google and facebook and a few others...


Seriously only people not married or kids are using most of the social connections, and it´s not hard to tell their reason.
I believe facebook is far off what the internet has to offer...

Anyways, I´m not too found of the social media stuff although I make part into a couple once in a while.
They sure have their kicks, but