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Title: Ubuntu app store
Post by: Kitty Hello on 2011-Sep-29
http://developer.ubuntu.com/ (http://developer.ubuntu.com/) it's pretty emtpy now. Maybe taking the chance of being one of the first and get some $$$?
Title: Re: Ubuntu app store
Post by: DmitryK on 2011-Sep-29
Maybe I'm wrong and the store has a great potential  but as I understand:
- linux users usually have not only the OS but and Windows etc.
- they can play and windows games on linux (wine)
- and the main deal - they don't like to pay for apps
It's only IMHO
Title: Re: Ubuntu app store
Post by: Kitty Hello on 2011-Sep-29
Yes, but maybe there are linux users that want to "proove this wrong" and buy apps? I have no idea.
Title: Re: Ubuntu app store
Post by: Nathan on 2011-Sep-29
Yeah, Linux users are a bunch of cheap skates!   :nana:
Looking at the front page some of the featured apps cost money, e.g. World of Goo, Braid and Beep so not everything is free. 
Actually this is quite exciting, another market place to submit your programs too!
Title: Re: Ubuntu app store
Post by: Crivens on 2011-Sep-29
On the other hand might be a better place to focus more on the free versions (and not expect much from the paid for version). A lot of them will have Android or iOS phones so it might be good free advertising to get people to buy the mobile versions.

I actually bought a game that way. Was on Miniclip and I loved this pool game. I *had* to have it on the iPhone when I saw it existed in an on screen advert. Turned out it was about £2 I think. Bit annoying considering the PC version was free. Still I got it anyway as it was such a good game. And then regretted it. Not that it was different, infact it was almost exactly the same, but because it just didn't work on a mobile device. Stupid fingers totally got in the way and it was really hard to play as nicely as on the PC. On the other hand I'd already spent my cash. Point is I wouldn't have bought it on the iPhone if I hadn't played it for free on the PC.

Cheers
Title: Re: Ubuntu app store
Post by: MrTAToad on 2011-Sep-29
Will they allow applications that aren't in an DEB module ? I'm signing up anyway :)

Ah, this is the important bit :

http://developer.ubuntu.com/publish/my-apps-packages/

It does need to be a DEB module, which will be a problem, especially as you need the make file to create said module...

This website (http://www.mygreatiphone.com/info/how-to-create-a-deb-file-easy-2/) seems to show how to convert a ZIP file to a DEB one...

Now to see what happens in Linux :)

No - that was totally rejected by the package manager...

This may be more useful : http://wiki.freegeek.org/index.php/Basic_Debian_Packaging

This may also be useful : http://www.iwannabeageek.com/posts/ubucompilator-create-deb-packages-without-make-commands
Title: Re: Ubuntu app store
Post by: mentalthink on 2011-Sep-29
Hi think this it´s important and it´s very good have a new market, but although the Linux App are free, can be usefull for advice the same game for other platforms. I don´t know if this can be possible and if the portal can leave us make it, but perhaps... can be a usefull indirect promo mode.

Title: Re: Ubuntu app store
Post by: MrTAToad on 2011-Sep-29
None of the links I mentioned actually helped.  In the end I had to get a example DEB file and extract all the needed stuff...
Title: Re: Ubuntu app store
Post by: matchy on 2011-Oct-01
Again, in regards to free apps...it's just a matter of marketing. :-[ "Free" gOS is an example where branding plays a big part. Perhaps sponsorship is an alternative to advertising?
Title: Re: Ubuntu app store
Post by: MrTAToad on 2011-Oct-04
My dodgy Linux package is still Pending Review  :O
Title: Re: Ubuntu app store
Post by: MrTAToad on 2011-Nov-05
My application is finally getting reviewed - now to wait for a report on all the problems with it :)
Title: Re: Ubuntu app store
Post by: Hatonastick on 2011-Nov-05
There's an Ubuntu store?  Didn't notice, which is funny as I use it on my netbook.  Still, I agree that it's unlikely to take off due to Linux users generally (in my experience -- I know quite a few, but of course it would still only be a miniscule percentage compared to the total users in the world) not wanting to have to pay for software...
Title: Re: Ubuntu app store
Post by: ampos on 2011-Nov-05
Quote from: MrTAToad on 2011-Nov-05
My application is finally getting reviewed - now to wait for a report on all the problems with it :)

One month to be reviewed?

And I was hangry with HP!
Title: Re: Ubuntu app store
Post by: okee on 2011-Nov-05
Quote- and the main deal - they don't like to pay for apps

In a link to an indie bundle (pay what you like ) that someone posted in
another thread the stats for purchases were:


Average purchase:    $4.95
Average Windows:  $4.48
Average Mac:           $6.28
Average Linux:        $7.86


Title: Re: Ubuntu app store
Post by: Hatonastick on 2011-Nov-05
Quote from: okee on 2011-Nov-05
Quote- and the main deal - they don't like to pay for apps

In a link to an indie bundle (pay what you like ) that someone posted in
another thread the stats for purchases were:


Average purchase:    $4.95
Average Windows:  $4.48
Average Mac:           $6.28
Average Linux:        $7.86
Hmm might have to change my stance on Ubuntu Store after all. :)
Title: Re: Ubuntu app store
Post by: MrTAToad on 2011-Nov-05
Linux users would probably pay for a unique product, especially if it only appears on Linux...

A month to get a product review started is pretty poor - hopefully it was only due to getting the lastest version of Ububtu out.  Hopefully it wont take that long to get the program actually reviewed...
Title: Re: Ubuntu app store
Post by: Hatonastick on 2011-Nov-05
Heh, with my netbook running Ubuntu and Win7, I could look at developing for both the Ubuntu store and Intel AppUp (or whatever it's called).
Title: Re: Ubuntu app store
Post by: MrTAToad on 2011-Nov-05
I really must get BallZ into the AppUp store :)

But there is a lot to do yet :)
Title: Re: Ubuntu app store
Post by: erico on 2011-Nov-05
If we consider these appstores an international distribution, then there are always people willing to support what they like.
I plan to make part on the many stores around, specially those that don´t charge entrance yet couse I´m just about finishing first game.

It seems better to me to enter the likes of apple store when I have at leas 2 or 3 little games done and working on others :S
Title: Re: Ubuntu app store
Post by: MrTAToad on 2011-Nov-05
Does anyone have any information about Windows 8 application store ?
Title: Re: Ubuntu app store
Post by: Hatonastick on 2011-Nov-06
There's a Windows 8 application store?!?!?  Wait a minute...  There's a Windows 8?!?!?
Title: Re: Ubuntu app store
Post by: Ian Price on 2011-Nov-06
Quote from: Hatonastick on 2011-Nov-06
There's a Windows 8 application store?!?!?  Wait a minute...  There's a Windows 8?!?!?

How did they make the jump from Windows 3.1 to Windows 8? :P
Title: Re: Ubuntu app store
Post by: MrTAToad on 2011-Nov-06
Time travel!
Title: Re: Ubuntu app store
Post by: caffeinekid on 2011-Nov-06
Does that mean my Windows 95 is almost twelve times better?
Title: Re: Ubuntu app store
Post by: MrTAToad on 2011-Nov-06
No, but probably 12 times cheaper...
Title: Re: Ubuntu app store
Post by: Hatonastick on 2011-Nov-06
You do all realise that MSDOS is where it's at, right?
Title: Re: Ubuntu app store
Post by: Ruidesco on 2011-Nov-06
We do, but living in denial is easier. :D
Title: Re: Ubuntu app store
Post by: r0ber7 on 2011-Nov-18
I think there are plenty of Linux users who'd pay for games, especially since most big studio releases leave Linux out of their markets. Still not so many good games for Linux out there.

When I've finished my game (which I hope to do around february) I'll put it on the Ubuntu store fo shore.
Title: Re: Ubuntu app store
Post by: erico on 2011-Nov-19
metoo! :)
Title: Re: Ubuntu app store
Post by: MrTAToad on 2011-Nov-21
Looks like its not a quick review process :)
Title: Re: Ubuntu app store
Post by: MrTAToad on 2012-Jan-13
Its finally been reviewed... And they want it as a source package rather than a binary one  :S
Title: Re: Ubuntu app store
Post by: Kitty Hello on 2012-Jan-13
No way. Angry birds will never release the code.
Title: Re: Ubuntu app store
Post by: MrTAToad on 2012-Jan-13
That's more or less what I said!
Title: Re: Ubuntu app store
Post by: kanonet on 2012-Jan-13
QuoteOpen source and commercial apps

Ubuntu desktop apps can be open or closed source, and free or paid-for. You decide the price and the applicable licence.
http://developer.ubuntu.com/
Title: Re: Ubuntu app store
Post by: Slydog on 2012-Jan-13
Hmm, can only think of three possibilities:
Title: Re: Ubuntu app store
Post by: Kitty Hello on 2012-Jan-16
4. some stupid script kiddie "reviewed" the app and gave a nonsense answer. "tis is linux. u must give source, dude. we all one family...!!111!!eleven!!"
Title: Re: Ubuntu app store
Post by: erico on 2012-Jan-16
Quote from: Kitty Hello on 2012-Jan-16
4. some stupid script kiddie "reviewed" the app and gave a nonsense answer. "tis is linux. u must give source, dude. we all one family...!!111!!eleven!!"

:D
Title: Re: Ubuntu app store
Post by: MrTAToad on 2012-Jan-16
It'll probably be months before I get a reply to my reply - so I think the Ubuntu App Store can be safely ignored...
Title: Re: Ubuntu app store
Post by: Ian Price on 2012-Jan-16
They aren't exactly doing themselves any favours, are they.
Title: Re: Ubuntu app store
Post by: Falstaff on 2013-Mar-17
Sorry to necro this old thread but.. has anyone had any success publishing to Ubuntu's Software Centre? I was thinking of trying to release on as many platforms/stores as we can, and it would be nice to hit Linux as well.
Title: Re: Ubuntu app store
Post by: MrTAToad on 2013-Mar-17
No, I never really got anywhere with it - the main problem is that they insist the source code is present so it can be compiled during  installation (or something) - which, of course is not really possibly unless Gernot gets a full Linux version up and running...

You could do it as an commercial package, but then you have do deal with the Linux packaging system which is absolutely awful.  There are no programs to do it for you - it has to be done manually...
Title: Re: Ubuntu app store
Post by: r0ber7 on 2013-Mar-22
Quote from: MrTAToad on 2013-Mar-17unless Gernot gets a full Linux version up and running...

I'm all for it, but I suspect he has other things on his mind.

QuoteYou could do it as an commercial package, but then you have do deal with the Linux packaging system which is absolutely awful.  There are no programs to do it for you - it has to be done manually...

If I ever do this, which I might (especially if that Ubuntu phone starts going, how is that going anyway?), I could make some scripts to ease the manual part. Everything can be scripted. :P
Title: Re: Ubuntu app store
Post by: MrTAToad on 2013-Mar-25
That'll be the way to do it!