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Title: Amiga disc to adf
Post by: Kitty Hello on 2015-Feb-21
Hi
at mom's attic, I found a bunch of old Amiga discs with games I once programmed. Does anyone here have the tools to create disk file or copy the data to a PC? It's about 10 discs that are of interest.

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Title: Re: Amiga disc to adf
Post by: mentalthink on 2015-Feb-21
http://www.lemonamiga.com/help/faq_crossplatform.php

I think the best place for questions about amiga it's amibay but I'm not sure if you will found a fot for make this operation.

When I want load games for amiga, I need a cable and translat them to the amiga.

** I will question this in ZDP, reahps they now how do it.
Title: Re: Amiga disc to adf
Post by: erico on 2015-Feb-21
I recall reading amiga disks on pc is kind of problematic. Do you have a working amiga?
Title: Re: Amiga disc to adf
Post by: mentalthink on 2015-Feb-22
http://darioportfolio.com/tutorial/amiga_adf.html

I'm not sure if this tutorial can be helpfull....

In fact I have a cable and the "experiment" works fine, but I only send from PC to Amiga floppy a game... Only it's needed a soft then the PC write over the diskete into the Amiga, reset the Amiga an then the game works, but from Amiga to PC I don't try nothing, I think in the tutorial I put you can done...

If don't find where buy the cable I put the link of a shop here in Spain, but really it's a easy cable to do, if you don't have to much hand with the welder (Soldador) the cable it's really cheaper, and really I think in Deutchsland you can't have any problem to find it, I think there was really really important this machine ( I always think Commodore was from Germany) :-[ .

Another point because it's relative to Amiga, the guys of "from bed to Millions" (The gold era 8 bits in UK), are doing another film but in this time focused in Amiga , now they are doing... for if someone are interested...  ;)
Title: Re: Amiga disc to adf
Post by: bigsofty on 2015-Feb-22
http://www.amigaforever.com/ae/ + a null modem cable + an ebayed Amiga. Not the simplest setup but the most reliable one for getting stuff on to windows.

Edit: whoops, shoulda read Mentalthinks answer, NM, great kids thinks alike, so they say!  :P

Title: Re: Amiga disc to adf
Post by: spicypixel on 2015-Feb-23
You need to install CrossDos on the Amiga so it'll read PC format disks. Then you can read the amiga floppies to a hdd on the Amiga and copy back to a PC format floppy
Title: Re: Amiga disc to adf
Post by: spacefractal on 2015-Feb-23
I'm hope you do have your amiga, since amiga disc was much more flexible than pc had, so pc disc drives is not compatible to read them. But amiga can read and write pc discs.


So the disc to adf must been done on amiga, like this one:
http://aminet.net/package/disk/misc/tsgui

Property you only need a 2mb amiga without HD to do that. So I'm pretty sure a HD is not required.
Title: Re: Amiga disc to adf
Post by: Kitty Hello on 2015-Feb-23
Oh dear. I dumped the Amiga years ago and now I found the floppies. I try to contact the devs of Crossdisk and such...

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Title: Re: Amiga disc to adf
Post by: Marmor on 2015-Feb-23
u need an amiga ?
Title: Re: Amiga disc to adf
Post by: spacefractal on 2015-Feb-23
Yes amiga required or a least a second floppy drive conneted to usb is required. A standard PC floppy disc cant read them, only the other way.

But there is options:
http://www.amigaforever.com/kb/13-118

Im still have my Amiga, but have not used its long time ago, so no idea its still works, and im do still have the second floppy disc.
Title: Re: Amiga disc to adf
Post by: Minion on 2015-Feb-24
A few years back I had the same problem. I wanted all my old stuff id written transfered over to the PC. I looked into the Amiga explorer solution on Amiga forever and thought id give it a shot. I used the old lying around null modem cable, plugged it all in and followed the very simple instructions (even for me, the noddier the better). And within 10 minutes I was actually transfering stuff over. At which point I just created a new boot disk with the relevant details on and any time i wanted to transfer something i just booted the Amiga, and it was ready to transfer in 2 minutes. It really is a doddle that any numpty can follow (Im living proof of that)
Title: Re: Amiga disc to adf
Post by: erico on 2015-Mar-05
In my case I made an image of my amiga hd, which emulators can boot, with my own dumped kickstart and rom.
Any adf amiga made would be acessible (amiga died of pcb corosion few years ago :( and I wasen´t smart enough to solve it).

Again, only solutions that require a working amiga comp.
Maybe there is a solution if you have the drive (some adapter) + emulation?

Amiga disk drivers go more or less cheap on ebay, could that be a solution?
Title: Re: Amiga disc to adf
Post by: Schranz0r on 2015-Mar-06
Just download the ADF's you own the originals :)
Or is it stuff by you're own?
Title: Re: Amiga disc to adf
Post by: erico on 2015-Mar-07
Kitty is looking for dumping amiga disks with stuff of his own without an amiga computer.
Title: Re: Amiga disc to adf
Post by: MrTAToad on 2015-Mar-07
Quote from: Schranz0r on 2015-Mar-06
Just download the ADF's you own the originals :)
Or is it stuff by you're own?
Indeed, if you sent the stuff of to various public domain libraries, the programs may have turned up on sites like LemonAmiga.
Title: Re: Amiga disc to adf
Post by: MrPlow on 2015-Mar-08
You could contact Sam Dyer on twitter, from Bitmap Books or one of the Retro Asylum podcast guys they know many Amiga machine owners.

However the chances of the disks working are slimmer in comparison to tapes - tapes were more reliable it would seem.


Title: Re: Amiga disc to adf
Post by: erico on 2015-Jun-08
Hello Gernot, I just stumbled into this:
http://www.armigaproject.com/

The floppy version should be able to read your disks, it is a bit expensive though.
Check it out.
Title: Re: Amiga disc to adf
Post by: MrTAToad on 2015-Jun-08
It might be easier/cheaper to buy an Amiga...
Title: Re: Amiga disc to adf
Post by: erico on 2015-Jun-08
yep, for sure, just saw this:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Amiga-600-/391165738490?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_77&hash=item5b134b7dfa


If you are only looking for dumping your disks, I believe you may have  no problem finding people with the real hardware in Germany.
You could visit Evil Dragon for that too. ;)
Title: Re: Amiga disc to adf
Post by: MrPlow on 2015-Jul-03
Wouldn't go spending too much as the disk over time are hit and miss with reliability...
I recall I had a PD utility called PC Dos Disk or something like that

I would save amiga files to 144 floppy as 720 dos disk - I think...

Or you run a kermit program over serial null modem or connect a dialup modem to an amiga and ftp the files :)