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Poll
Question: How did you learn to program?
Option 1: School votes: 1
Option 2: Books/Internet Tutorials ect... votes: 10
Option 3: Both votes: 5
Title: How did you learn to program?
Post by: kamakazieturtle on 2009-Dec-07
The poll is only for two days ,because it is for my PowerPoint for Computer Science Class. Please everyone who reads vote! :whip:
Title: Re: How did you learn to program?
Post by: Ian Price on 2009-Dec-07
I presume magazines count as books? The internet didn;t exist when I startd coding. All I had was a copy of an Amstrad CPC magazine that had listings in it, way back in 1984. I got my CPC for Christmas and it didn't have any games. Shops were all shut, so I had to type out the listings. I enjoyed the coding more than the games themselves. Ah, the goode olde days :D
Title: Re: How did you learn to program?
Post by: erico on 2009-Dec-07
same with me, magazines like rainbow and some eletronic(subject not midia hehe) magazines for the tk-82c (2kb of memory! UAU who could ask for more??).
Title: Re: How did you learn to program?
Post by: matchy on 2009-Dec-07
Generally, in the early 80s, all there would be is a keyboarded box (coco2), black & white TV (at first) and a manual.
Title: Re: How did you learn to program?
Post by: Kitty Hello on 2009-Dec-07
lo. Ace read, Ian. Me, too. I got a (very expensive  for my parents) C128 w/o games on X-Mas. And then there was the BASIC manual...
Title: Re: How did you learn to program?
Post by: erico on 2009-Dec-07
very expensive indeed, I remember my dad getting sick (psychologicaly) after buying me an amiga 500. bearing in mind computers in brazil at that time (90s) costed a MINIMUM of twice the price advertised on foreign magazines, not to count that our money at the time was 1 to 10 for dollars and a lot more for pounds...
Title: Re: How did you learn to program?
Post by: kamakazieturtle on 2009-Dec-08
Quote from: Ian Price on 2009-Dec-07
I presume magazines count as books? The internet didn;t exist when I startd coding.

Indeed it does count, this is more a way to show that no one can just go to school and know how to program. It takes a skill that is acquired by a passion.
Title: Re: How did you learn to program?
Post by: MrTAToad on 2009-Dec-08
With me, it was mainly studying the C64 Programmers Manual...
Title: Re: How did you learn to program?
Post by: Hatonastick on 2009-Dec-08
I was constructed from left over bits and pieces from 8-bit computers, at least one of which included a copy of Locomotive BASIC on a ROM.  I never needed to learn.

Um ok, well I'm from the 8-bit era too when you learnt how to program from the computer manual or magazines.
Title: Re: How did you learn to program?
Post by: kamakazieturtle on 2009-Dec-08
I'm only 3 years out of highschool so I started messing with computers probably at about 6/7 years ago. Then programming didn't come much later. Bought quite a few C++ books, as well as Blitz and Visual Basic Books. But I think most of my knowledge is from the forums on DCEmu.co.uk and GP32X.com. Of course not being able to get far in C++ (Still can't get graphical! :S) once I learned some GLBasic I was hooked. Now this is my main forum and I enjoy deving pointless projects that never get completed and don't ever get up to the standard I wish they could be. All because I'm so obsessed, haha. :nw:
Title: Re: How did you learn to program?
Post by: kamakazieturtle on 2009-Dec-09
Bump.

Poll closes tonight at 7:00 P.M. Eastern (US & Canada).
So everybody who sees this and hasn't yet, please vote.

Thanks everyone for all the results thus so far.  :good:
Title: Re: How did you learn to program?
Post by: kamakazieturtle on 2009-Dec-10
Poll Closed, thank you everyone for your votes!  :enc:


Edit: I'm in class right now and just finished my presentation. Mission accomplished, thanks again everyone.
Title: Re: How did you learn to program?
Post by: Achim on 2009-Dec-21
I started back in 1982 learning BASIC on my good old Sinclair ZX81  =D
Title: Re: How did you learn to program?
Post by: Schranz0r on 2009-Dec-21
I start with a Amiga 500 ;) but i had a C64 , too. :P
Title: Re: How did you learn to program?
Post by: Hemlos on 2009-Dec-22
Wow,

I started on my friends c64 in the 5th grade at 10yo, then got a c128 for my 12 birthday.
I borrowed games, and tinkered in them, instead of playing them.


@Ocean: You invented the microchip?  8)
Title: Re: How did you learn to program?
Post by: Hemlos on 2009-Dec-22
Hehe,

Thats funny, according to my kids, i invented dirt.
Title: Re: How did you learn to program?
Post by: yaKC on 2009-Dec-23
I got a ZX Spectrum +2 for Christmas '87... used to type the listings from the manual and magazines (Your Sinclair, Crash and Sinclair User (+ the occisional ACE pink pages puzzles they used to have)... also presing escape/break on basic games or MERGE'ing thm in to access the code.

Didn't really start coding my own stuff 'til I got a SAM Coupe... slow but faster thana Spectrum for Basic.. loads of coding later (games, utilities and applications) got an Amiga with AMOS...

GLBasic is the first thing I've come across since getting a PC 10 years ago that comes close to a proper Basic for me.. let the good times roll ;)
Title: Re: How did you learn to program?
Post by: BumbleBee on 2009-Dec-23
In 1989 i wrote my first program on an Atari ST 1040 machine with Omikron Basic. Where have all the years gone.  =D

Cheers
Title: Re: How did you learn to program?
Post by: spudgunjake on 2010-Jan-04
I learned on a atari 2600 Couldnt save anything but it got me going. backing around 1978-80
Title: Re: How did you learn to program?
Post by: AlienMaster on 2010-Apr-14
Hello to all,   :enc:

Today is my first day using GLBasic and as it turns out my first day on this forum. I realize this poll is closed but it seemed as good a place as any to introduce my self.

In December of 1981 I bought a C64 at Target for around $200 I got it home and hooked it up to my 13 inch color tv. I turned it on and it just sat there looking at me looking at it.

I went back to Target and started looking thru the mags to see I could do to use this wonderful new gadget. 12 mags later I was sitting there reading mags and trying to understand why I spent $200. There was no floppy drive so as you know every time it came time to turn it off I was devastated.

That's when I discovered Amoeba mode. I think I must have sat there typing in line after line of code for what must have been 7 or 8 months / JK  :D it was days at a time tho and I have been addicted ever since. I now find my self about to enter Amoeba mode again trying to figure out some of the 3d stuff in GLBasic, so wish me luck and if no one hears from me for a couple months  :'( , please send   :help: hotpockets and wild cherry pepsi.  :D
Title: Re: How did you learn to program?
Post by: aonyn on 2010-Apr-14
Hi All,

I will follow AlienMaster's lead and introduce myself as well, as I purchased GLBasic over the weekend.
My name is Dave, and perhaps some of you will recognize me, from purebasic, or the game creators puregdk forum.
I also have a few posts at the blitz3D sdk forum, as I use that as well with purebasic.

Anyway, I started out as a CAD guy, and learned programming later.
I discovered Python, and have been hooked ever since.
I have played with many other languages, including C, Lua, Scheme, C#, VB, DB, PHP, Java, JS, etc.
When I discovered purebasic however, was when I found my home, where I became truly comfortable in a language, and I was able to accelerate past the curve.

Recently, I have been writing iPhone apps, using ansca corona. I have also played with Obj-C, and while I can stumble around with it, I don't like it.
Then over this weekend, I found a forum post (over on the blitz site I think) recommending GLBasic, so I checked out the demo, and purchased 2 hours later.
I have already completely translated one of my projects, not complete, but at the same state I was at in Corona.
I am very excited to have found GLBasic, which is much more like purebasic than corona, which is based on Lua.

Thanks to Gernot for developing GLBasic.  :)

Now to the topic of this thread...

Most of my knowledge comes from trial and error (lots of error)  :P
I of course have also gone through many tutorials as well as articles on the internet as well.

regards,
Dave

Title: Re: How did you learn to program?
Post by: Kuron on 2010-Apr-14
Quote from: AlienMaster on 2010-Apr-14In December of 1981 I bought a C64 at Target for around $200
I find it most impressive that you lived somewhere that had a Target in '81.  They were still under a hundred stores back then. =D
Title: Re: How did you learn to program?
Post by: bigsofty on 2010-Apr-14
Welcome to you new guys! ;)

Well, as a kid in mid 80's, programmed CPC464 with basic for fun, lovely dialect of Basic BTW, mainly listings, did some Z80 Assembly, even got a couple of CPC games published, then the AtariST/Amiga. Later went the academic route but I had my main fun with the home micros. The 80s was a very innovative an unique time to be into computers, we were very lucky!  =D
Title: Re: How did you learn to program?
Post by: aonyn on 2010-Apr-15
Thanks for the Welcom BigSofty   :)
Title: Re: How did you learn to program?
Post by: Kuron on 2010-Apr-15
QuoteThen over this weekend, I found a forum post (over on the blitz site I think) recommending GLBasic, so I checked out the demo, and purchased 2 hours later.
Blitz is becoming one of the greatest advertisers for GLB.
Title: Re: How did you learn to program?
Post by: Matthew on 2010-Apr-17
Hey Ocean,

Is this what you were after? Only Promal references I could find:
http://www.lyonlabs.org/commodore/onrequest/collections.html#promal
Title: Re: How did you learn to program?
Post by: Marmor on 2010-Apr-17
LC80 Anyone ?  hmm iam old..
Much later i use debug in Msdos
much much later ;) i get an Atari 130 for 2000 Aludollar (12 or 15 Alu Dollar are 1 Westmark )
 

http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/LC80
Title: Re: How did you learn to program?
Post by: bigsofty on 2010-Apr-23
Wow, the LC80 actually look very interesting, if a little fragile.

Its really open for all to see the inner workings.

I take it, it was in kit form?

How much did that cost?
Title: Re: How did you learn to program?
Post by: Kimaro on 2010-Apr-24
I started with a Sinclair ZX81 too! 1k memory, wow!! Upgraded to a Commodore Vic20 then the C64 followed by the Amiga 1200 which is now stuffed in a draw. Have used ZX81 and C64 buit in basic but the Amiga never had a rom basic. Used AMOS and Blitz Basic on it. Tried several different compilers on the pc. My current pc is a Acer Aspire 5536 laptop. Quite comfortable with GLB although I need to learn a few more bits and pieces. Long live BASIC. Shunned by many for its "simplicity" but an easy way to get your ideas and dreams on a pc. Oh, and it's fun too.
Title: Re: How did you learn to program?
Post by: Kuron on 2010-Apr-24
QuoteLC80
Wow, that is my type of computer!  I bet you had a lot of fun with that. =D
Title: Re: How did you learn to program?
Post by: garyk1968 on 2010-Sep-30
Quote from: Kimaro on 2010-Apr-24
I started with a Sinclair ZX81 too! 1k memory, wow!! Upgraded to a Commodore Vic20 then the C64 followed by the Amiga 1200 which is now stuffed in a draw. Have used ZX81 and C64 buit in basic but the Amiga never had a rom basic. Used AMOS and Blitz Basic on it. Tried several different compilers on the pc. My current pc is a Acer Aspire 5536 laptop. Quite comfortable with GLB although I need to learn a few more bits and pieces. Long live BASIC. Shunned by many for its "simplicity" but an easy way to get your ideas and dreams on a pc. Oh, and it's fun too.

Ha the exact same route I took, hours spent typing in listings rom your computer into my zx81 with dktronics 16k ram pack, remember 3d monster maze? awesome game at the time. I then got a Vic20 which was great having a real keyboard, although 3.5k ram and 22 characters per line was always abit weird!

After that a C64 and then, bizarrely an atari ST and an Atari STE which were never as popular as the Amiga. I had done a few years basic by now and some 6502 assembler. Then into the big bad world, some more basic programming on PCs (gwbasic and basica) then onto xBase, Clipper and FoxPro and then Delphi (pascal) from about 95 which I still mainly use today coupled with ObjC on the mac.

Gary
Title: Re: How did you learn to program?
Post by: ampos on 2010-Sep-30
I got a 2nd hand Vic20 without manuals in 1983. After 2 months later I didnt get a ZX Spectrum Basic manual, and started learning how to use this thing. Do you remember typing endless lines od DATAs?

:enc:
Title: Re: How did you learn to program?
Post by: Cliff3D on 2010-Sep-30
I also started typing in listing son a ZX81, where I graduated from BASIC to assembly (anyone remember typing in all those hex codes?) and over the years upgraded through the original Spectrum (48 I think) then BBC model B, BBC Master 128, BBC Master 512 (for which I wrote a mouse driver so that I could play MS Flight Simulator on the thing with the mouse) and, of course, a variety of PCs.

BBC BASIC, based on the BASIC I'd loved so many years ago, was one possible way to go since I fell out of love with Visual Basic (e.g. since MS dumped support for old VB programs in Vista), but for some reason the author rubbed me the wrong way. I HAVE a copy of BBC BASIC for MS-DOS around ehre somewhere, but it's way out of date - GLB is certainly more up to date. One of the attractions to me of GLB was that I thought it produced C/C++ code which was compiled by GCC, and that promised platform compatability and probable code longevity far beyond what MS seemed to be offering with VB. I think now that we're locked out from the C code produced from our applications :(
Title: Re: How did you learn to program?
Post by: BlueSteel on 2010-Sep-30
Started on a tandy radio shack monel 1, then a Dick Smith Wizard, then Spectrum (or was it sniclare .. can't remember) ,  then the Good old C64 (skiped the Vic20) then the tandy coco3 , amstrad, Atari, Amiga 1000, amiga 3000, and then the PC.. yes i hated the PC ..(I know i've used a lot more too just can't remember them .. oh Texis Instrimentts computer.. was one of them) the only thing it had going for it was backward compatability.. and it lost that shortly after i purchaced my first one. I still use Emulators to run and program my favourites.. The C64 and Amiga.. both too good to forget about.

Over the years and Computers and OS's (Dos,OS2, OS2 Warp, Win 3.1 -> Win 7 . ) i've used many many programming languages, Including C , C++ , Assembly(6502,68000,x86), Basic (on many OS's in many many flavours) , Amos , Amos Pro, Blitz basics (on amiga and PC),Pascal, Cobol, Forth, Fortan, Lisp, DBase, and a flock of indie languages which are now dead and almost forgotten..
Title: Re: How did you learn to program?
Post by: Leginus on 2010-Sep-30
I started programming basic on a commodore 16, then got a c64  about a year later and started coding in assembly for my *cough*  hacking / intro group that i was a member of (the ocp hackers).  Not hacking stuff like they do these days, but just removing copy protection etc. It was all about the cracktros back then.....ah what great times.

Anyway, after that I went on to work for Royal Mail and then Xansa UK ltd as a programmer doing many different things, one which was coding the software that communicated with the cash counting machines in the cash centres.  Not much fun....but it paid the bills :)
Title: Re: How did you learn to program?
Post by: PaLe on 2010-Sep-30
I Start in 1986 on a ZX spectrum 48k  :nw: with implementation of same little routines in L/M and wrote same game/application for Magazines (included GFX with MelbourneDraw) ; then on Amiga 500/1200 but only in Basic Languages (AMOS, BlitzBasic) and the GFX/SFX programs like Dpaint/ProTracker in a group that, unfortunally, never completed any project/games...
then PC Qbasic, (QB7 actually used in some situation) and finally on GLBASIC, My Preferred SDK  :happy:

TUcS  (http://dl.openhandhelds.org/cgi-bin/gp2x.cgi?0,0,0,0,25,2820) is an example of the "Old School" written in GLB  :)

PaLe
Title: Re: How did you learn to program?
Post by: Leos on 2010-Sep-30
I feel so young here.. Lol... when i started it was already a PC  :whistle:

I had a first experience using Mirc scripting to make nasty and lammer stuff on irc channels...
Then liked flash and the actionscript for a while...
Then started learning VB, pascal and lua
Then delphi was my beloved for few years, till i find about B3D
After B3D i thought i had to learn something usefull like C but it was a bit hard for me, so I went for Purebasic and now GLBasic :)
Got back to C/C++ and it's not as hard as i thought but still have some issues with it...
Now i left Psychology and entered Computer Science
(I use to 'learn' mainly from the internetz or books)