I have a great idea for a new Zelda game...I even posted it on Nintendo's website and got told to refine it a bit and send it to Shigeru Miyamoto! The only problem is I refined it and I also wanted to include a playable demo for him to see what it was pretty much like. I've messed around with a few other programs including Game Maker, RPG Maker 2000, RPG Maker 2003, 3D World Studio, DarkBASIC, GSLight(or something like that), and Blitz3D just to name a few. I have no clue what I'm doing though so it just messes me up. Is it possible for me to make a game using graphics from Legend of Zelda Ocarina of Time or Legend of Zelda Twilight Princess? How do I code it? What basics do I need to know? How do I save it to a console (as in Gamecube or Wii) disc? Please, tell me everything! I'm begging you! It's a really cool idea too! If I get any rights to the game that means I get money right? Would I have to sue to get money out of my own game? Please, help me!!!!
1. You can rip the graphics form an N64 emulator. I've done that (just for testing purposes), but it is still some work to get textures correct... If you send a prototype to Nintendo, that might be OK. Don't know.
2. How you code it? a 3D Zelda? uhm... Have you read the list of peolple who wrote the original? I mean it's like saying: "I want to build a better BMW 750. I've got great ideas - how do I build it?".
3. You need to know programming structures. You need to know how to write a small game, then a bigger one then zelda 2D and then you can port it to 3D.
4. You can't just _save_ it to a console disk. You would have to compile for that processor/architecture. And: there's no free/legal thing to do that.
Honestly, the best you can do is: Write your idea to Miyamoto - get some help from friends/family to improve the idea here and there. Then hope that it gets implemented and Nintendo _might_ send you a free copy of the game. That's best thing that might happen.
I'm not kidding and I don't think you are a troll. I just think you need to learn about "life".
Quote from: bubbaman83I have a great idea for a new Zelda game...I even posted it on Nintendo's website and got told to refine it a bit and send it to Shigeru Miyamoto! The only problem is I refined it and I also wanted to include a playable demo for him to see what it was pretty much like. I've messed around with a few other programs including Game Maker, RPG Maker 2000, RPG Maker 2003, 3D World Studio, DarkBASIC, GSLight(or something like that), and Blitz3D just to name a few. I have no clue what I'm doing though so it just messes me up. Is it possible for me to make a game using graphics from Legend of Zelda Ocarina of Time or Legend of Zelda Twilight Princess? How do I code it? What basics do I need to know? How do I save it to a console (as in Gamecube or Wii) disc? Please, tell me everything! I'm begging you! It's a really cool idea too! If I get any rights to the game that means I get money right? Would I have to sue to get money out of my own game? Please, help me!!!!
What Gernot said, I've also got a funny story that will save you some trouble...
When I was about 16 the Nintendo 64 was going on and 1080 snowboarding just came out....I wrote Nintendo a letter telling them they needed to make a 3d skateboarding game where you could skate freely around 3d skateparks and cities....etc
I got an automatic reply card in the mail a few months later saying something along the lines of "Thank you for your suggestions Mike, Nintendo always likes to hear from it's customers....etc but we are currently busy devoloping upcoming titles...etc"
Basically it meant "buzz off"
Funny part is Tony Hawks Pro Skater came out for the PS1 about a year or two later and took the world by storm. Karma is a bitch, and I hope they kick their own ass everyday about that one.
Quote from: GernotFrisch1. You can rip the graphics form an N64 emulator. I've done that (just for testing purposes), but it is still some work to get textures correct... If you send a prototype to Nintendo, that might be OK. Don't know.
2. How you code it? a 3D Zelda? uhm... Have you read the list of peolple who wrote the original? I mean it's like saying: "I want to build a better BMW 750. I've got great ideas - how do I build it?".
3. You need to know programming structures. You need to know how to write a small game, then a bigger one then zelda 2D and then you can port it to 3D.
4. You can't just _save_ it to a console disk. You would have to compile for that processor/architecture. And: there's no free/legal thing to do that.
Honestly, the best you can do is: Write your idea to Miyamoto - get some help from friends/family to improve the idea here and there. Then hope that it gets implemented and Nintendo _might_ send you a free copy of the game. That's best thing that might happen.
I'm not kidding and I don't think you are a troll. I just think you need to learn about "life".
Well, first of all, yes I have looked at the credits of a Zelda game. And you know what? I also noticed that there were f names maximum in the programming part. That tells me something. And if nintendo only gives me a free copy of the game but they do make it, wouldn't that be illegal? And Rocko, maybe, just maybe they learned from that. If not, I could just send a copy right to Miyamoto's home...that might work and there's plenty of ways to get that address. Please everybody, continue trying to help me! COuld I get another 3-5 people minimum (I already have 3, including myself) on my staff to help? Thanks! (although I want to actually program it if possible, I need music directors, art directors, storyline directors etc.)
Oh dear. I was not cear enough.
1 You can _not_ write a legal game for any Nintendo console.
2 For a high quality game you need high quality developers. I'm not sure if I'm sufficient.
3 Nintendo has their developers. They give a ** about your game. Especially when it would cost money.
If you really want to make a Zelda like RPG, start _small_. You can write a game in quality of ZeldaIII (Link to the past) with a small team or even alone. And if you do it right, the game _will_ be fun. What is it that you really need 3D for? And if so, start 2D and then convert the game to 3D - that's not very much work for the code. The graphics however are horrible for a small team.
Quote from: GernotFrischOh dear. I was not cear enough.
1 You can _not_ write a legal game for any Nintendo console.
2 For a high quality game you need high quality developers. I'm not sure if I'm sufficient.
3 Nintendo has their developers. They give a ** about your game. Especially when it would cost money.
If you really want to make a Zelda like RPG, start _small_. You can write a game in quality of ZeldaIII (Link to the past) with a small team or even alone. And if you do it right, the game _will_ be fun. What is it that you really need 3D for? And if so, start 2D and then convert the game to 3D - that's not very much work for the code. The graphics however are horrible for a small team.
You just don't get it do you? I don't want to make ot for the nintendo consoles, I'm not expecting a reply with a game, there is no legal way for me to make it a Zelda game that I made, and I don't care what you say, i WILL get this thing 3D by myself.
Doesn't sound like your off to a great start :) lol
Do a search on the 'net and find out how many millions of people have a "Great idea for a new zelda game!"
Nintendo has had a "great idea for a new zelda game" quite often. That's probably why they've made so many of 'em.
Bubbaman, you have to realise, games are not just about a great idea. Which by the way, 95% of
people may disagree that it is a good idea. A lot of hard work goes into a game, a small team or a single person can only produce a small game, even then it is still a lot of work.
Don't run before you can even crawl.
Quote from: rockoDoesn't sound like your off to a great start :) lol
Do a search on the 'net and find out how many millions of people have a "Great idea for a new zelda game!"
Nintendo has had a "great idea for a new zelda game" quite often. That's probably why they've made so many of 'em.
.....you really dont get it? none of you...youre all just....idiots aren't you? I posted this on the FRICKEN NINTENDO FRICKING SITE!!!! THEY LOVED IT INCLUDING THE MODERATORS!!!!!!!!! Does that not tell you it's a great idea? y'all are just stupid...you think just because you failed in the same area that I'm attempting means it's impossible. That's like telling somebody that it must be impossible to swim in the deep end of the pool just because you can't. Well, I can see that i'm not gonna get any help from you assholes.
Quote from: mikiexBubbaman, you have to realise, games are not just about a great idea. Which by the way, 95% of
people may disagree that it is a good idea. A lot of hard work goes into a game, a small team or a single person can only produce a small game, even then it is still a lot of work.
Don't run before you can even crawl.
Don't run before I can crawl? I've been crawling on my goddamn hands and knees for about a year now. I've mangaed to create a 2D Zelda from scratch using my own *love making* sprites. And trust me, I can and will create a game so *love making* big Nintendo won't even be able to cope. When I learn something, It sticks in my head for all eternity. That's probably why Nintendo and Sega have both sent emails to me pretty much asking me when I'll be able to work with them. I think I'm gonna finish college first however. The ONLY reason I said I was a noob and such is because I thought that you jerkoffs would be sympathetic to someone who was less talented than you. Guess what, looks like you simpletons are the ones who need sympathy from the more talented people. 95% huh? yeah, try 95% is the amount that AGREE that it's a good idea. BTW, you idiots decided that you were going to condemn something that you don't even know what it is? That is probably the MOST narrow minded thing I have ever heard. You didn't even bother to ask the storyline. When I came to this site, I figured I would encounter a bunch of cool people who would be willing to help anyone in need. Looks like I found a buch of idiots whose brains are so small that all of them combined could fit up my goddamn ass! Well, thanks a bunch and can't wait till you're out buying Legend of Zelda Starlight Key (which by the way is the name of the Zelda I created). And another thing, if you all think that I'm going to take advice from people who can't even spell realize right.
Yes, you are right, we are wrong. Unfortunately, we - with our very limited brain capacity - hereby capitulate. We are not clever enough nor are we worth that you share your idea with us.
We are very sorry for having wasted your time.
Wishing you best luck for your project. Please drop a line when it hits the market, so we can try to buy a copy of it.
Quote from: bubbaman83Quote from: rockoDoesn't sound like your off to a great start :) lol
Do a search on the 'net and find out how many millions of people have a "Great idea for a new zelda game!"
Nintendo has had a "great idea for a new zelda game" quite often. That's probably why they've made so many of 'em.
.....you really dont get it? none of you...youre all just....idiots aren't you? I posted this on the FRICKEN NINTENDO FRICKING SITE!!!! THEY LOVED IT INCLUDING THE MODERATORS!!!!!!!!! Does that not tell you it's a great idea? y'all are just stupid...you think just because you failed in the same area that I'm attempting means it's impossible. That's like telling somebody that it must be impossible to swim in the deep end of the pool just because you can't. Well, I can see that i'm not gonna get any help from you assholes.
Quote from: mikiexBubbaman, you have to realise, games are not just about a great idea. Which by the way, 95% of
people may disagree that it is a good idea. A lot of hard work goes into a game, a small team or a single person can only produce a small game, even then it is still a lot of work.
Don't run before you can even crawl.
Don't run before I can crawl? I've been crawling on my goddamn hands and knees for about a year now. I've mangaed to create a 2D Zelda from scratch using my own *love making* sprites. And trust me, I can and will create a game so *love making* big Nintendo won't even be able to cope. When I learn something, It sticks in my head for all eternity. That's probably why Nintendo and Sega have both sent emails to me pretty much asking me when I'll be able to work with them. I think I'm gonna finish college first however. The ONLY reason I said I was a noob and such is because I thought that you jerkoffs would be sympathetic to someone who was less talented than you. Guess what, looks like you simpletons are the ones who need sympathy from the more talented people. 95% huh? yeah, try 95% is the amount that AGREE that it's a good idea. BTW, you idiots decided that you were going to condemn something that you don't even know what it is? That is probably the MOST narrow minded thing I have ever heard. You didn't even bother to ask the storyline. When I came to this site, I figured I would encounter a bunch of cool people who would be willing to help anyone in need. Looks like I found a buch of idiots whose brains are so small that all of them combined could fit up my goddamn ass! Well, thanks a bunch and can't wait till you're out buying Legend of Zelda Starlight Key (which by the way is the name of the Zelda I created). And another thing, if you all think that I'm going to take advice from people who can't even spell realize right.
lol :D
Thanks, that was funny. Now shine my shoes boy. And shine 'em good.
Quote from: rockoQuote from: bubbaman83Quote from: rockoDoesn't sound like your off to a great start :) lol
Do a search on the 'net and find out how many millions of people have a "Great idea for a new zelda game!"
Nintendo has had a "great idea for a new zelda game" quite often. That's probably why they've made so many of 'em.
.....you really dont get it? none of you...youre all just....idiots aren't you? I posted this on the FRICKEN NINTENDO FRICKING SITE!!!! THEY LOVED IT INCLUDING THE MODERATORS!!!!!!!!! Does that not tell you it's a great idea? y'all are just stupid...you think just because you failed in the same area that I'm attempting means it's impossible. That's like telling somebody that it must be impossible to swim in the deep end of the pool just because you can't. Well, I can see that i'm not gonna get any help from you assholes.
Quote from: mikiexBubbaman, you have to realise, games are not just about a great idea. Which by the way, 95% of
people may disagree that it is a good idea. A lot of hard work goes into a game, a small team or a single person can only produce a small game, even then it is still a lot of work.
Don't run before you can even crawl.
Don't run before I can crawl? I've been crawling on my goddamn hands and knees for about a year now. I've mangaed to create a 2D Zelda from scratch using my own *love making* sprites. And trust me, I can and will create a game so *love making* big Nintendo won't even be able to cope. When I learn something, It sticks in my head for all eternity. That's probably why Nintendo and Sega have both sent emails to me pretty much asking me when I'll be able to work with them. I think I'm gonna finish college first however. The ONLY reason I said I was a noob and such is because I thought that you jerkoffs would be sympathetic to someone who was less talented than you. Guess what, looks like you simpletons are the ones who need sympathy from the more talented people. 95% huh? yeah, try 95% is the amount that AGREE that it's a good idea. BTW, you idiots decided that you were going to condemn something that you don't even know what it is? That is probably the MOST narrow minded thing I have ever heard. You didn't even bother to ask the storyline. When I came to this site, I figured I would encounter a bunch of cool people who would be willing to help anyone in need. Looks like I found a buch of idiots whose brains are so small that all of them combined could fit up my goddamn ass! Well, thanks a bunch and can't wait till you're out buying Legend of Zelda Starlight Key (which by the way is the name of the Zelda I created). And another thing, if you all think that I'm going to take advice from people who can't even spell realize right.
lol :D
Thanks, that was funny. Now shine my shoes boy. And shine 'em good.
heheheheh...guess what? I got myself a 30 person production team right now...you wanna see how talented they are? here's a sample of their work:
http://www.zeldarealm.com/whitemage_test/final.exe
And guess what else? You all get the first taste of the new game...It'll be done in a month or so....trust me, It'll blow your socks off. Shine your shoes? don't think so. Shine mine jackass
Quote from: bubbaman83And guess what else? You all get the first taste of the new game...It'll be done in a month or so....trust me, It'll blow your socks off. Shine your shoes? don't think so. Shine mine jackass
You're eager to impress my man... But unfortunately Zelda is a 20 year old theme....I liked it 20 years ago, I prefer to see innovation with video games. Not a rehash of a rehash of a rehash... I really never want to see a Zelda game ever again. That's one problem with the game industry....sequel after sequel....etc *love*, no thanks.
Quote from: bubbaman83I have a great idea for a new Zelda game...
Okay, you have a great idea. Thats cool - thats where all decent games start... but it aint enough.
How many other people have a great idea for a Zelda game? Lets take a look... Woah! (http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=zelda+fan+games&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official)
Thats a fair few, man.
So - question - your idea... is it better than all of these uncomissioned idea's for a Zelda game *and* what makes your idea so special that Nintendo will have to sit up and take notice?
Now, pause for a second here - because I'm not slagging your idea down - I'm asking a straight up, sensible question.... which before we carry on and you go to answer the question lets look at a small point here...
How many Zelda plotlines have come from outside of Nintendo with the exception of licensed products to, say, Phillips (for the much derided and rightly so CD-i games)... and even then, how did they get the license?
I can answer that.
They paid for it. With cold hard cash. Lots of it, too. A major license does not come cheap.
History of Nintendo taking over peoples ideas on board for their games, no matter how good the idea may be = next to zero. Probably, even, zero. Its a legal minefield. Same way that if you send a script idea into a TV show or unsolicited script about a movie sequel - it gets binned. People in the business can't afford to read them in case it comes back and bites them on their asses.
So, you've got a heck of a lot of work cut out for you there because you'd be the first person on the planet to pull off such a coup. Your idea better be the best thing ever in the known universe to get noticed - and 95% of people saying its a cool idea means jack squat to Nintendo. They want product, saleable product and a hefty dose of cold hard cash if you want to go ahead with that product yourself without being part of their team.
Nintendos QA department is notoriously fickle and notoriously demanding. So, brace yourself because if you go ahead with this man, you're gonna have one heck of a beast of a ride.
QuoteI even posted it on Nintendo's website and got told to refine it a bit and send it to Shigeru Miyamoto!
I can tell you precisely what will happen if you do this.
It will come through his door and he *will* throw it into the bin without reading it - course, man - you've gotta realise that Mr Miyamoto probably doesn't even open his own mail here, when you're an industry bigwig - dude, you can pay people to do that for you and filter out shit you don't want to see.
What Mr Miyamoto won't want to see *ever* is an idea for a Zelda game - on the off chance even just one feature in your idea makes it into his next epic and you can prove he's read that - he's wide open to litigation. You think Mr Miyamoto fancies having his ass sued this week, next week or any other week?
Nopers. He doesn't. Because no-one in their right mind does.
So, you say "I'll send it to his house"...
How very professional that will make you look - mailing to an executive in a major company at their home address. You think thats all you need to do to get noticed? Pop it in his mailbox and voila - he'll be on the phone ready to lick the turd from your ringpiece in anticipation?
Wow, if it worked that way - everyone would be doing it. There'd be no need for Nintendo Offices around the world! Just mail it to the guys house, he won't mind...
Or perhaps, just perhaps - he'll ignore it. I would.
The games industry has protocols and you just can't circumvent them because you feel like you've got the best idea in the known universe.
If you want to be noticed... play by the rules.
QuoteThe only problem is I refined it and I also wanted to include a playable demo for him to see what it was pretty much like. I've messed around with a few other programs including Game Maker, RPG Maker 2000, RPG Maker 2003, 3D World Studio, DarkBASIC, GSLight(or something like that), and Blitz3D just to name a few.
You can prototype it in whatever language you want. No-one really cares what a prototype is written in. I know Industry folks who knock up prototypes in Blitz3d, Gamemaker - whatever they can get their hands on to code quickly, efficiently and get their idea's down pat. Some have dedicated tools - most use whatever is the best and most efficient for the job.
But... (and you knew there was a but, right?)
Whats the use in a prototype of a Zelda game being sent to Mr Miyamoto? Really... you think the guy doesn't know how a Zelda game plays? Y'reckon thats a goer?
See that? Thats the other leg with bells on and its playing your tune, baby.
Now... a detailed game design document... that seems more sensible, no? Well - here I can help you. Go to Gamasutra (https://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/login.php?from=http://www.gamasutra.com/features/19991019/ryan_01.htm) and read all you can. You'll need to register for a login or bugmenot into the place - but that'll give you a breakdown on the anatomy of creating your design document.
You put together a well thought out, perfectly written design document and whilst your Zelda game idea may not see fruition - you may just knock someones socks off with how well you can put this shit together and may stand a hope of getting a job in the industry.
Course, there's probably thousands of people doing this - but don't let that put you off. If you're as superb and wonderful and ace as you lead us to believe, then you'll stand a chance. Power to the people, may your granny knit a jumper in anticipation of the wonders that shower down upon us all... Waynes World 2 - if you build it, they will come. You can do it... GO TIGER, GO!
QuoteI have no clue what I'm doing though so it just messes me up
Better get that stuff that sticks inside your brain for all eternity (I assume its not glue, right? You don't wanna stick glue in your ears.) into gear then.
If you can't learn the basics... you're no use to anyone.
But, I always say "never say never". I thought I couldn't design or write a game and Confuscious say "yeah man, anyone can if they try". But you gotta try. Thats 100% effort all the way.
Find a package, learn a package and stay with the package - don't hop around forever and a day trying to find something thats easy enough because none of them ever will be. The foundations are always the same, the language and development environments are just the enablers. Only you can learn how to harness them.
People can give you tips, you can look at code all across the internet - but you've gotta put the work in.
QuoteIs it possible for me to make a game using graphics from Legend of Zelda Ocarina of Time or Legend of Zelda Twilight Princess?
Possible and legal are two different things, my erudite enthusiastic friend. Its possible to use any graphics from any game by one way or another, but its about as legal as sticking your penis in a bank tellers mouth when you go to make a withdrawl.
You *really* want to impress? Don't rip the media. Make your own.
You *really* want to be on the receiving end of a Cease & Desist order? Rip that media off, then show it to Nintendo.
I smell lawyers and they'll have your scent. Ignore the C&D and it'll be 12 rounds with Bubba in the local jailhouse as he politely asks you to pass the soap. Either that or you can kiss goodbye to your family home as your 50c savings won't cover the cost of the legal fee's
Jee, that'd make Mom proud. My son, the one who lost us our house through having a dream!
QuoteHow do I code it? What basics do I need to know?
Well man, you learn to code. You know - how to draw shit on the screen and things then move them around and stuff. The basics of any game. You see it running in a game - thats the shit you need to know right here, right now. I can't tell you that though, you've gotta work this stuff out through your brain, make sure it aint no seive so none of the information falls out of your lughole when you tip your head to the left and learn.
Learning is good.
Mmmm, learning sandwich anyone?
QuoteHow do I save it to a console (as in Gamecube or Wii) disc?
Well, you learn to code in the appropriate development environment, learning to harness the API's of the particular machine, make sure your code is as bug free as possible, fully playable and a complete and wonderful game! Easy!
Thats all there is too it...
Well, except for the amount of money you need to raise to buy a Devkit and start your company up. But lets not let practicalities like that get in the way, dude.
Or, you could take up homebrew using some of the illegal emulation kits if one such kit should exist for the appropriate console - and man oh man, you can bet Nintendo will love you for cutting into their certified revenue streams and showing some initiative that way.
I can see it right now, they'll be round your house with presents in both hands to thank you so much for not following the official DevKit route.
That'll get your game noticed for sure.
QuotePlease, tell me everything! I'm begging you!
The answer you seek, my child, is 42.
QuoteIt's a really cool idea too!
Get to work then, you know where your desk is...
QuoteIf I get any rights to the game that means I get money right?
You think dev teams have rights these days? Ahahaha.... cog in the wheel, son. Cog in the wheel.
Get to your desk and do what your told and you can go for a piss when I tell you.
Still seem glamorous?
QuoteWould I have to sue to get money out of my own game? Please, help me!!!!
No, you'll get a wagepacket like every other codemonkey on the planet and be grateful.
Have a nice day, dude.
BTW - has it started yet? ;)
Quote from: bubbaman83.....you really dont get it? none of you...youre all just....idiots aren't you? I posted this on the FRICKEN NINTENDO FRICKING SITE!!!! THEY LOVED IT INCLUDING THE MODERATORS!!!!!!!!! Does that not tell you it's a great idea?
You do realise that moderators on these sites aren't necessarily Nintendo staff, right?
They're usually fans who've been with the site from early on or have proved themselves sensible enough to have a little power given to them in the hope it doesn't go to their heads.
A bunch of people on a message board on the internet giving you the thumbs up means nada in the grand scheme of things.
Quotey'all are just stupid...you think just because you failed in the same area that I'm attempting means it's impossible. That's like telling somebody that it must be impossible to swim in the deep end of the pool just because you can't.
Woah horsey, woaaaaaaaaaah.
Nothings impossible. But man oh man, you gotta work for shit in this life unless you're a Big Brother contestant (and even then fame is fleeting).
Pointing out the harsh realities of life does not make one stupid, pretending they don't exist on the other hand - well thats Dualling Banjo's territory right there. You ever squealed like a pig?
QuoteWell, I can see that i'm not gonna get any help from you assholes.
Waddya want, blood?
QuoteDon't run before I can crawl? I've been crawling on my goddamn hands and knees for about a year now. I've mangaed to create a 2D Zelda from scratch using my own *love making* sprites.
Well done, you win a fruit.
Now get to college and do a game design course if you're serious, man. Or devote the next few years to that learning sandwich I offered you earlier. Munch on the food of the learned... swallow the food of the learned...
QuoteAnd trust me, I can and will create a game so *love making* big Nintendo won't even be able to cope.
You go boy, don't come running back to me when a Cease & Desist lands on your doorstep.
QuoteWhen I learn something, It sticks in my head for all eternity. That's probably why Nintendo and Sega have both sent emails to me pretty much asking me when I'll be able to work with them. I think I'm gonna finish college first however.
Dude, I wish major corporations would come and beat down my door because I had an idea. I have a superb idea every half hour, but man - no-one ever emails me.
I guess I'm not in the top 95% though like you...
QuoteThe ONLY reason I said I was a noob and such is because I thought that you jerkoffs would be sympathetic to someone who was less talented than you. Guess what, looks like you simpletons are the ones who need sympathy from the more talented people. 95% huh? yeah, try 95% is the amount that AGREE that it's a good idea.
Our survey said... ur urrrr.
95% of whom, people you've asked? Is that 95% of the population? 95% of games designers? 95% of Nintendo staff or as I suspect... a few of your mates and the odd message board?
Or is it the case that 95% of statistics are made up and entirely fictional?
I'd love to live in your head dude, reality seems so far away - it must be nice.
Oh, and one of these so called simpletons you're referring to has managed to write his own programming language whilst you can't even use one. Oh, I'd kill to be that stupid - I really, really would.
QuoteBTW, you idiots decided that you were going to condemn something that you don't even know what it is? That is probably the MOST narrow minded thing I have ever heard. You didn't even bother to ask the storyline.
No-one condemned your idea, no one said "dude, thats a useless idea".
They all said you're going to have to work to make your idea a reality. And y'know? They're spot on. They're correct and no amount of swearing makes them any less right.
QuoteWhen I came to this site, I figured I would encounter a bunch of cool people who would be willing to help anyone in need. Looks like I found a buch of idiots whose brains are so small that all of them combined could fit up my goddamn ass!
Have you tried this? Should we be worried?
I mean, thats gotta be illegal putting brains up your backside, right?
QuoteWell, thanks a bunch and can't wait till you're out buying Legend of Zelda Starlight Key (which by the way is the name of the Zelda I created). And another thing, if you all think that I'm going to take advice from people who can't even spell realize right.
Some of the most wonderfully artistic people I've ever met in all my years on this planet have had poor literacy levels. Creativity and literacy do not go hand in hand, my friend. You should learn to listen to those with sensible wisdom to impart and see through things like grammar and spelling.
Great art does not always come from the directions you expect it to.
And next month, next year or the year after when I don't see your game on the shelves in Wal-Mart, I'll shed a tear for what could have been beautiful if only someone hadn't mouthed off and attempted to alienate anyone who didn't bow down before the mighty one.
I wish you and your thirty man team the best of luck and I await a months time when you're epic is complete.
May the foundations of Nintendo crumble beneath your feet and collapse at your genius.
Quoteheheheheh...guess what? I got myself a 30 person production team right now...you wanna see how talented they are? here's a sample of their work:
http://www.zeldarealm.com/whitemage_test/final.exe
Dude, thats a Quake 3 map with a model of Link in it.
Quote from: bubbaman83Looks like I found a buch of idiots whose brains are so small that all of them combined could fit up my goddamn ass!
Sorry...that just makes a great quote. :D It's kinda like a power-up innit? Put the magic brains in your ass and you'll grow big and shoot fireballs.
Quote from: GeniusQuoteheheheheh...guess what? I got myself a 30 person production team right now...you wanna see how talented they are? here's a sample of their work:
http://www.zeldarealm.com/whitemage_test/final.exe
Dude, thats a Quake 3 map with a model of Link in it.
Now, that is so impressive. You totally convinced me. You are one hell of a teriffic game programmer. Well and only 30 men for such a good work... Knocks me off my socks.
Quote from: GernotFrischQuote from: GeniusQuoteheheheheh...guess what? I got myself a 30 person production team right now...you wanna see how talented they are? here's a sample of their work:
http://www.zeldarealm.com/whitemage_test/final.exe
Dude, thats a Quake 3 map with a model of Link in it.
Now, that is so impressive. You totally convinced me. You are one hell of a teriffic game programmer. Well and only 30 men for such a good work... Knocks me off my socks.
....heh...heheh...hahahahahahahahahaha! You guys are just too fricken hilarious! Oh my *love making* god! Whew! I've never laughed so hard in my life! Oh man that was good! "Almighty one"? Who ever said I was almighty? jeez! You guys take everything to the literal meaning don't you? Oh my god this is *love making* funny! I gotta keep coming back here just for the laughs! Genius huh? Well "Genius" I don't call making C++ simpler making your own programming code. I've used C++ I've used BASIC. I just didn't like the results. Glue? GLUE?!?! That is hilarious! ......well, class is about to start so I'm not gonna start with you but in case you care...yeah it's started...Quake? yeah, you realize, that was not the entire production team...that was one person....in his own free time which he does not have a lot of. No member of the production team has Quake....the most we have is Photoshop. We have no *love making* idea what Quake is. well, second bell just rung, got about a minute to get to 6th hour! Oh, by the way, on my website (no, it did not use a cheap page builder, I have completely masterd HTML and such) I'm adding a page with all kinds of goodies and shit for those of you who wanna find out what this "Legend of Zelda Starlight Key" is about. It should be up in a day or so. Until then, *love* off jackasses! Don't play with yourselves in front of electrical objects!
Quote from: bubbaman83Until then, *love* off jackasses! Don't play with yourselves in front of electrical objects!
You sound like somebody with a lot of soul, someone who could really craft a great story with wonderful themes.....I love your skilled use of language, keep it up. Great stuff!
Quote from: bubbaman83We have no *love making* idea what Quake is.
That doesn't even deserve a comment. It's just funny.
Quote from: bubbaman83And another thing, if you all think that I'm going to take advice from people who can't even spell realize right.
Do you realise that sentence makes no grammatical sense? Also do you realise we spell it with a goddamned 's' in the UK?
http://dictionary.cambridge.org/define.asp?key=65816&dict=CALD
Quote from: bubbaman83I got myself a 30 person production team right now...you wanna see how talented they are? here's a sample of their work:
http://www.zeldarealm.com/whitemage_test/final.exe
Oh hang on..
Quote from: bubbaman83yeah, you realize, that was not the entire production team...that was one person....in his own free time which he does not have a lot of.
So, any reason you originally said "their" work? Oh, and apparently it'll be done in a month. Brilliant, can't wait. Always wanted to play a Zelda game using the Resi Evil forward/back/turn control scheme. ¬_¬
Something tells me I'll be going for the Wii version of Twilight Princess...
Wii is what best describes the results of 30 men like bubba. BTW: Wasn't bubba the chap from ForrestGump? With the shrimps? Man, was he clever!
Fried shrimp, baked shrimp, boiled shrimp, shrimp in teryaki sauce, kimchi with shrimp, shrimp raw
Oh
Yeah :D
bubbaman,
I hope you realiSe one day how the world works.
People have offered you good advice and you throw it
back in their faces, you won't get anywhere the way you are acting.
Not here, not anywhere.
I have worked in commecial game development for 10years
so I have experience of the factors involved in making video games.
Gernot, I think you need some rules for the forum - swearing etc.
although please don't remove this thread, Its funny
http://zeldarealm.com/forum/index.php?topic=963.0
oops busted :)
Good idea. Added censoring. Never had to do that before - thank you all for this. I'll never put this thread off. We are here to "help" people. Even if it's in social ways...
It sounds to me like what you've got is a story.
A story has as much to do with a game as autumn trees have to do with a roadway:
They're both nice to have and can give an impetus to keep going if you're getting bored, but neither has any affect on your destination or the rules you obey to get there.
w/e....I'm done..yes, bubba is the dude from forrest gump....it's also the nickname my parents gave me when I was 5...they still call me that even though I hate it....but w/e...I'm done, I got a lot of work to do if I wanna finish in time. I'll let you all know how production is going...BTW You all STILL don't get it, you quote my posts but apparently you don't read them, I'M NOT EXPECTING ANYTHING OTHER THAN A "Thanks but no thanks" OR "Go away, we don't want you" OR SOMETHING OF THAT SORT FROM NINTENDO. BTW, I live in Michigan.....realize is spelt with a z here. Figure out who you're talking to before you correct them. I apologize though for all UK people who decided never to tell me that realize is spelt realise there. Well, seeya! I think thanks to you all, half my production team abandoned me!
Quote from: bubbaman83...yeah...I know, 30 person production team my butt....but we are getting stuff done. BTW, fighterj5 and lightwind, I was about to post this myself. This si sorta to show you how good you people are, and a warning (although I don't think yu need one since your so awesome) of how easily I lose my temper and what it looks like when I do lose it. So, for your veiwing pleasure, go there.
If we're gonna be picky..
Can't spell "is" either. Or "you". Or "viewing".
Quote from: bubbaman83You all STILL don't get it, you quote my posts but apparently you don't read them
That's quite untrue, we pay particular attention to your posts. In fact, when you said:
Quote from: bubbaman83I'M NOT EXPECTING ANYTHING OTHER THAN A "Thanks but no thanks" OR "Go away, we don't want you" OR SOMETHING OF THAT SORT FROM NINTENDO
you appear to have forgotten that:
Quote from: bubbaman83Nintendo and Sega have both sent emails to me pretty much asking me when I'll be able to work with them.
Seriously mate, thanks for this. I haven't had such a good laugh since the last dumbo decided he was going to use Klik'n'Play to write a game that'll run on a PS2. Keep 'em coming, Champ!
Quote from: bubbaman83.BTW You all STILL don't get it, you quote my posts but apparently you don't read them
No, no - I think the problem is that you change your tack and lie throughout each post.
Really, truly - don't lie to people if you want their help and assistance because the problem with a liar is they always, always get caught out.
You've been caught out.
But still, people answered your questions - then you throw it back in their faces calling them stupid. Thats more than a tad silly, don't you think? Lets weigh up a few facts here...
You lie... what have you got to gain?
Ah, utmost disrespect and an unwillingness for people to take you seriously thus making life more difficult for you.
You tell the truth... what have you got to gain?
Everything. Honesty will get you a whole lot further. Backtracking 2 posts further down the same page which contains your previous lies is incredulous to say the very least. I can personally vouch for most of the people who've contributed to this thread as intelligent and helpful people - something born out of the fact that even amidst your blatant lies, they still offer you advice.
Trying to pull the wool over peoples eyes with things like the Quake 3 map which, for the record, is pretty much a standard map that people use when testing a 3d Engine (I believe its one of the free maps with Iirlicht for example) for the first time and so, is probably installed on a fair few peoples computer is plain idiocy. Then claiming to have never heard of one of the largest game franchises in the western world just makes you look an even bigger fool.
Its not worth it, is it? You could have come in here and asked for help and assistance and stayed truthful and avoided all of the mockery - but noooo, you had to be a prat about it. I realise you're young, so there's still time for you to learn :)
QuoteI'M NOT EXPECTING ANYTHING OTHER THAN A "Thanks but no thanks" OR "Go away, we don't want you" OR SOMETHING OF THAT SORT FROM NINTENDO
Thats lucky, because you won't even get that. Best case scenario will be a stock email or letter as a courtesy reply :)
QuoteWell, seeya! I think thanks to you all, half my production team abandoned me!
And yet, you still can't stop making things up :)
Bless. Ah well, once again I wish you luck with your project and hope that at some point in the future you can stop lying and realise the value of honesty in this world and how useful a virtue it is.
Oh, and Gernot...
Has it started yet? Has it? :p
It has started and I am late...ohh nooooo! It has started! Ah. better....
Last Message from Bubba :lol: :
http://www.glbasic.com/files/bubba.wmv
Quote from: GernotFrischLast Message from Bubba :lol: :
http://www.glbasic.com/files/bubba.wmv
ROFL, very funny! :nw: :nw: :nw: :lol::lol::lol:
Thats great Gernot, you gotta put that on youtube
Its a great advert :)
Poor Bubba
I couldn't get youtube working. Propably because I have cookies disabled usually. I put it on googlevideo, though.
Quote from: GernotFrischLast Message from Bubba :lol: :
http://www.glbasic.com/files/bubba.wmv
...*tears well up from laughter* dude, that was freaking hilarious!!!! But nothing like me, make the guy fatter and more nerdy like! If you want me to I'll post it on Youtube! That was the funniest thing in my life! Oh man, I've never had people care enough to make a video of me! BTW, make it again and put forks in the guys hair (something I decided to do today at school). With that I leave you all, if the moderators can, freeze my accoun cuz I'm done. (Before y'all get picky, the spelling is bad cuz I'm in a hurry) well, seeya!
I honestly have that thing playing over and over again! That is freaking hilarious!!!!! Oh man...oh yeah, not like y'all gonna beleive me but I only keep posting stupid stuff to keep you guys going. Look how it turned out! I get my own video!! Woot! Well, like I said, I'm done. Seeya!
Great to see you're not moping, mate.
well, I was just having a bad.....er....week or so, so I just decided to temporarily use this board to blow off a little steam. Hey got a challenge for ya! Try to figure out where I just started lying to keep you guys rolling! BTW, I have a great idea for you guys to get more people using GLBasic (BTW, it's not that I can't figure out how to use the program it's more of the program never works on the computer I use), you should make an entire series of Bubba commercials! (one "m" or two?)
Great idea. I'm very short on time, could you do this please? I promise to host the videos here, then. Would look much more realistic then, too.
The GLBasic IDE does not work on your computer? Pretty strange, since it's working even back on NT4.0. What's the problem you get?
PS. "commercial". My English teacher gave me a simple rule of the thumb: If you're unsure, write it with 2 consonants.
Yeah, I asked my English teacher too. Ok...The only possible problem is I might have to borrow a video camera from my friend or the school...I never have anything useful...Umm, I also had an idea for the forst video that I'm gonna do...We're gonna continue the concept of me being dumb or whatever (just cuz it's more funny that way)..It could have me using a program like DarkBASIC (cuz that one seems to work on my computer) and say that I'm testing a new program to see if it has the "power" to make the game I want. Then, on the computer, I type in something like:
"FUNCTION
Create awesome Game
ENDFUNCTION"
and when I get an error message, say that it doesn't have the power to make my game. You like?
Oh yeah, it's not the OS that's stopping the program...It's some internal error. Whenever I download it (off your website no less) When I try to run it (yes after I reboot the system...a couple times) it says that some .dll file can't be found so it can't run or something....very confusing...oh well!
Please specify the "some" .dll more precisely? I guess there's more programs that do not run on your computer then? Give the detailed error string here and you'll have the solution in a second.
Using Daak - Duck - Dragh - WhateverBasic would be funny. However:
FUNCTION Zelda2007:
DoZelda();
ENFUNCTIONMight not compile on GLBasic, either. (Though I've not tested it, yet)
...huh? I'll check the .dll thing but I can't at school
grahh!!! I got grounded from the library before I could find out the .dll file missing...I'll just give up on that...and work on that commercial!
What!? There should be a message if anything fails. Please post what is says.
um....can't really post the error message if I can't see it...sorry....I'll try again later
how do you know it doesn't work then!?
Ok let me try again.
I have GLBasic at the public library. I am currently grounded from the library so I cannot go to check which .dll file is missing. When the school year ends, I can go to the library. At that time I will post the file name
OK...The error message is as follows:
"This application has failed to start because MFC71.DLL was not found. Re-installing the application may fix this problem."
I've tried reinstalling it but it still gives me this message.
strange. I'll put that in the setup again, but it should be there. Check for viruses on that machine! And make sure you have admin rights. The file must be in System32 then.
admin.....rights? You *love making* crazy? It's a public library, of course I don't have admin rights!
oh yeah, I've also changed the idea for the game. It will NOT be a Zelda game, It's gonna be either the start of my own series or a one-shot deal that I'll probably just end up porting to a GC disc that only I will have. Also not going for any cheats. No GLBasic, no DarkBASIC, no nothin. I'm coding it completely in C++ do don't plan on hearing from me in a looooong time.
Hi bubbaman83
You are coding completely in C++? Possibly a 3D game? May I ask you how old are you?
To develop a perfect 3D game takes many years.
Don't get me wrong but I guess you will kick the bucket before.:lol: :lol:
Stay here with us and make a game in GLBasic.:)
See you soon
Cheers
...yeah you can ask but you're gonna laugh....14 (15 in less than a month) I have a few hometown friends who are pretty skilled in C++ and recomended it. Also, I have a friend of a friend of a friend that has the source coding for a pretty generic adventure/Action game that he gives out for people to make their own games out of. Pretty cheap way I know but still, anything should help. I got a 3D Model Maker so I can get the character models ready ahead of time. I'm making it polygons so no sprites for me. Pretty much I'm following the recipe as follows:
1. Get as many coders and such as possible.
2.Stick in a crowded room and put cover on.
3.Simmer for 18-24 months stirring as neccissary and adding pizza and soda pop to taste
4.Open lid. Expect a half baked or unfinished game.
I got that from a book called Game Architecture and Design....It's a pretty good read but it's short for such an important subject....just over a few thousand pages. Oh well.....I'll make due.
BTW, I'm not mad at y'all, you're probably right but I'm still gonna try. You guys have helped me a lot and I'm not likely to forget you anytime soon.
GO DIR EN GREY, ANCAFE, FIREFOX, and MY CHECMICAL ROMANCE!!! THANK YOU GLBASIC FORUM MEMBERS FOR OPENING MY EYES AND HELPING ME KICK MYSELF IN THE BUTT! SEE Y'ALL LATER! I'M OUT!
Well, getting others things done is one way of creating a game. However, coordination of professionals is hard task, and coordination of semi-profs is uhm... well...
And in the end, what did _you_ learn? Do whatever you feel cosy with, but here's how I got where I am now (not that this might be some good place, though):
- Start programming BASIC
- Write "games" like: Guess a number, PONG, Monty in the maze
- Then slowly play with 2 things (seperated): Advanced graphics/effects vs. more complex game concepts
Don't mix it in the first place, it's easier to keep things seperated, first.
- Find friends that are programming as well (with the internet not a problem)
only with friends you can learn really fast. Exchange your experiences, that's worth everything.
And slowly you will create games that are more and more sophisticated. Then, if you are really good at game programming concepts, you _might_ switch language if you experience any limits. I don't see any limits in GLBasic, that's why I'm using it for games, although I _do_ know C++. (And I only learned it, because there was no GLBasic back then ;) )
Keep interested, you'll make your way. 14-15 years is perfect age for starting. I was 13, but I was too young. It sort of slowed down my programming in the first place.
Another thing you can get involved in is modding communitys of games, such as unreal etc.
A lot of the hardest work is done for you and it is possible to write new gameplay.
Many people have made a career from it and now work full time on games.
Games can take a lot of work, consider where I work there are 250 people working on 4 projects, each of which take 2years to complete.
Even then we have a lot of people just writing tools to help us make the game in the first place.
You a professional game programmer?
hey! Good deal! Modding games! That's a great idea! How the heck do I do that?
using Google?
Artist, mainly special effects + technical art... Im not a good programmer :(
Yes. Google for "halflife modding" or something
ok....so google it...BTW Gernot, are you the one who made the "Bruce Lee" game tutorial?
Yeah. Did that - in real time. Recording, Cutting, Publishing all in 40 something minutes... That's why it's so crappy.
I thought it was pretty good. Helps a lot! Oh yeah...found out that it's just the computer I'm using that messed up GLBasic....I'll try again when school starts.
We're getting all new PCs this year so that'll help
wow...this thread ha sbeen dead for awhile now hasn't it? Anyway, thought I outta let you know that 7 months later....I'm still going through with thsi project. I got voice actors, artists, music peoples and a ton of other shweet stuff...15 now and have still made very little headway into coding in C++ I made a pretty basic Text Adventure though.... (Basic meaning I told you what was happening, gave you four choices, you pick and follow the storyline from there) Although as far as I can remember...no matter which you chose, it ultimately lead to your death....but that's just the kind of person I am. I'm taking a computer programming class next semester and a web design class (although that has nothing to do with the game, it's right before my programming class which is in the same room so I may get extra stuff done). So, do you all think I can do it? I'd appreciate help from anybody who wants to! BTW, I have Windows XP both at the library and the school so it should be fairly consistant...at least in the versions of stuff I use. I have dev-C++ for my compiler or whatever...if that helps anyone... and I have Audacity for music editing.
You have to learn LOGIC to be able to comprehend and build function in ANY programing language.
Taking a webdesign class wont help with that, but it might help with structure and graphics.
C++ class might help, but you better really really study the way the logic works.
When you figgure that part out then youll be successful with most languages, and you wont be asking questions like "how do i do it all?" and "tell me everything", these things cant be just explained, you have to learn it all, trial and error on your own.
Yes i think you can do it, but not without a fully comprehensible understanding of logical functions...if you only just recently started with your first program(this year?), i have bad news, it could take years to figgure everything out that you need to know to make your game work on a profesional level.
Furthermore, if youre building a game using nintendos trademarks or names, nintendo can legally take action with the courts and take any or all profits(or worse, more money) and force you to cease doing so...namely jail, that would be a crappy situation.
Before you waste your time making a nintendo game for a profit, get a contract from nintendo.
Work as a game contractor and you might not waste half your life building something for nothing. Get your contracts before you ever begin, or its over before you start.
-Hasta, Hemlos
ps if you dont know what a mod is, let me explain and show..
A mod is an addon to a preexisting game. This is a good place to start learning how to manipulate sounds and graphics. Some games even allow you to script in logic (like star wars jediknight)
Here is a webpage i made for Microsofts "Combat Flight Simulator 2" mods which has altered maps, a texture generator for models( i built this with dIngs(pre-glbasic) a few years ago) flight models for different objects and 3d addons, i even added star wars ships to it lol!:
pps. im not sure why but the texture genrator freezes on windows xp2, it worked fine with windows 98 tho...made it back in 2001, however with xp, you can just ctrl-alt-del to close the program and then look in the directory "textures" and youll find it there....i think im going to make a newer version using the latest and greatest glbasic to recreate it...it works pretty good and makes nice fresh textures.
http://www.angelfire.com/extreme/cfs2/
Okay, well I am starting to understand basic logic type stuff if you mean loops, Ifs, Thens, Whiles, that kinda stuff. Also, the web design class was because I own a website...well, not reall own, it's freewebs...ANyway, it's in no way related to anything Nintendo...or any other company for that matter has out yet. I learned awhile ago what modding is although I've never actually tried it. Thanks for the extra info! I made that basic program about...July I think? anyway, I've been busy writing up storyline and dialogue, character designs, that kinda stuff, so I haven't touched even HTML for awhile, let alone C++...so I've probably lost any form of skill or knowledge of any of it. So I gotta take that up again. Well, time to get back to work, seeya'll later!
Once again, it's been awhile. I found out that the computer programming class was in Visual Basic...that was sort of a disappointment although I still enjoy the class and the program. I'm also busy building my own PC right now so I don't have to rely on these school computers or the public library. Uhh lesse, what else's been going on? Oh yeah...I wa spart of a game dev team, but we disbanded when one of the guys ended up having to code everything while everyone else just made empty promises to help sooner or later. I've taken up HTML again and was messing around with C++ but haven't done anything serious in awhile. The game I was planning is still there, but it's on the backburners for now. Low priority compared to other shtuff I have going on...anyway, how have you all been? I have admin rights at the library now so I'm probably going to use GLBasic for awhile, just to see what it's like. Talk to you all later, teachers coming around!
Hey...hey guys...guess who's back? Wow...it's been....a looong time since I've been here. It looks all shiny and new now. Anyway, keeping updates with the age thing, I'm 18 now, scrapped this idea about 2 weeks after my last post, and am now actually thinking of being a graphic designer. I have my own laptop now, so when I do, on a whim, decide to do some game programming, I don't have to worry about admin rights, getting banned from libraries, etc. Anyway, My friends and I are entering a contest in our town for something like $300 each for a small game design. We're just thinking of a short but funny satirical dating-sim game. It'll be loaded with stuff like STDs crazy psycho ex-girlfriends, the like. I completely forgot what GLBasic was like, so I'm probably gonna be downloading that later today, just to try to get a feel for it. Oh, and I'm sorry I completely failed on the commercial series. Never found a suitable camera...sorry. Anyway, how've you all been?
Hi bubba, nice that you're back.
Hi Bubba
I'm a newbie to GLBASIC good luck with your projects.