Im remember this thread got trashed after the eailer forum crash, which was a excellent debat and linked some good games (Erico etc linked to a C64 game with a insane good 8-way smooth scrolling, but cant remember that game, dooh, its was a preview).
Im thinks the debate was started with this Amstrad R-Type game:
http://cpc.rtype.fr/Game_Features.html
Im also thinks Spectrum Castlevania Interlude got a word:
http://spectralinterlude.com/
On C64, the newer Prince of Persia port is pure excellent ported:
http://popc64.blogspot.dk/2011/10/prince-of-persia-for-commodore-64128.html
About the computer wars, which im known its allways end with (oops). Im personly was a pure C64 fan, mostly due the great sound its did have, and there exists good and bad games to all systems.
Even im newer liked Spectrum that much (even there is some very great games to this format), im did ported the Spectrum game, Manic Miner to Nintendo DS (named Manic Miner - The Lost Levels) to Nintendo DS. Im did the music part (about 60min music). That game was really fun to do the music and still love that game today:
http://headsoft.com.au/index.php?category=mmll
:good: :good: I remind this game was a first I saw in a Spectrum Zx in home of a friend.
I see you port to DS and is really nice the graphics are very good and the music jejej the "piriririr" of ZX (comes to my head), very good.
I go to comment to some guys of the RetroScene , sure they like this game.
:nw: :nw:
There was also brand new Bubble Bobble game on the Amstrad CPC that improved on the original port significantly.
I used to be heavily involved in pc remakes, but not so much now. The scene has pretty much dried up now.
The Manic Miner game got a excellent review in Retro Gamer, and was made far before im went into glbasic programmering and was a remake for Nintendo DS (not PC).
Also on Commodore 64 too, there is a excellent version of the endless runner game, Canabalt, named C64anabalt.
Megablasters on the CPC is a great bomberman clone.
http://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=64980
Actually the full title is Megablasters : Escape From Castle In The Clouds, it's really Megablasters 2 and was released earlier this year. Great game!
Here an R-type on zx spectrum type game...z-exemplar:
But it is not for the zx, it is for modern computers and portables, I think they are running a greenlit too.
The zx artifacts is well reproduced, I like it. I wonder how would today´s people react to this.
home page:
http://www.zexemplar.com/
Really looks nice like a ZX real, wiht the same ugly effects in the sprites.
Saure someone will do the port to a real ZX , like happends with the game of loco malito "Abaddie les morts".
Cool this post... More games...
Yes I'm saw that Some time ago, and I'm thinks it's look very cool and I'm also like the concept too. However it'd do might require rework and fewer sprites to suit it's cpu. But look like a cool game anyway.
erico - quick question - i tried added you tube videos to form before and they did not work - what is the correct use of the youtube tag?
On games! OMG SF, there are good games on both C64 and Spectrum - C64 version of Bruce Lee and Ghostbusters and IK+ etc are games I played on a friends C64 - they were better than Speccy version but the Speccy had some cracking games!!!
A few of my favs for Speccy are:
Fairlight, JetPac, Lords of Midnight, Back to Skool, Skool Daze, R-Type, Cybernoid, Ant Attack, Star Wars, Elite, etc.
The Spectrum has the best variety as there were no hardware Sprite limits....so some great wacky games were made too!
I am doing a book at the moment with 20 spectrum basic games - hoping to release by end of Sept
Quote from: MrPlow on 2015-Aug-25erico - quick question - i tried added you tube videos to form before and they did not work - what is the correct use of the youtube tag?
This way:
[youtube]0NFc4brAYqM[/youtube]BTW if you want to see how someone did write something in the forum, you can simply use the quote button and inspect the code of his post.
Quote from: MrPlow on 2015-Aug-25A few of my favs for Speccy are:
Fairlight, JetPac, Lords of Midnight, Back to Skool, Skool Daze, R-Type, Cybernoid, Ant Attack, Star Wars, Elite, etc.
The Spectrum has the best variety as there were no hardware Sprite limits....so some great wacky games were made too!
Nice choices there! :good:
Yeah, some people seem to think that something like the SNES (I'm looking at you America! :P) had most games released for it but it ran to just over 1000 games, the ZX Spectrum alone had over 10000 games released for it.
A bit off type, Here a Jason Page tune made with the software (excellent drums), made in a sidtracker 64:
https://m.soundcloud.com/noothermedicine/forth-at-here
I'm do admit in liked turrican series very much in c64 and on Amiga.
snes is a console and zx spectrum a computer. You can't compare the numbered released games for a console and a computer toghether. It's was much easier on spectrum here.
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snes is a console and zx spectrum a computer. You can't compare the numbered released games for a console and a computer toghether. It's was much easier on spectrum here.
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Yep, specially considering a console is usually closed and a computer is open, the number of games is usually way higher on any computer.
edit: by the way, great sid tune there!
I highly recommend you getting a copy of
From Bedrooms To Billions - DVD documentary about UK microcomputing / games industry
Also, BBC documentary called MircoMen another classic!
Here the c64 game with super fine scroll:
Quote from: MrPlow on 2015-Aug-25
I highly recommend you getting a copy of
From Bedrooms To Billions - DVD documentary about UK microcomputing / games industry
Also, BBC documentary called MircoMen another classic!
I´m usually off put to recent media about old computer games mainly because I lived through those ages. :o
I watched some recent accounts on old games or indie games and I did not like it at all, so I haven´t checked anything else that came later.
The games they pull are usually the more pop ones instead of so many others that are unique till this day.
I don´t know, maybe it is because of some opinions that ´wrap up´ those times and I usually disagree with it.
Of course, those medias could be good when checking a computer that was not famous around my country neither the countries that I monthly bought magazines from, but still, they feel more targeted to bringing something pop from that age to young kids instead of getting deep on the huge experimentation that the 8-bit computers meant (at least to me).
But I´m bragging without checking and that BBC one looks interesting, maybe if I check those I would change my mind.
I think for a chap like me, a doc about some japanese never-seen-outside-computer, like the x68000 or the more hardcore variations like the russian zx clone, the pentagon, and what people there did with it would suit me much better.
Micromen is a good watch, it's factually interesting but it's quite a good drama as well.
Talking of modern games that look like they were made on an old system, there's Rock Boshers DX
Quote from: erico on 2015-Aug-24
Here an R-type on zx spectrum type game...z-exemplar:
But it is not for the zx, it is for modern computers and portables, I think they are running a greenlit too.
The zx artifacts is well reproduced, I like it. I wonder how would today´s people react to this.
home page:
http://www.zexemplar.com/
Rock Boshers is Superb! :nw:
I finished the original version and really would like to check this one...but at PC please, hehe.
Couple c64 awesome adventures released today, check:
http://www.indieretronews.com/2015/09/awakening-fantastic-c64-adventure.html#more
http://www.indieretronews.com/2015/09/caren-and-tangled-tentacles-v1.html#more
I enjoyed the sierra styled adventures.
Also, this cpc styled modern game, looks really juicy:
http://www.indieretronews.com/2015/08/roland-of-sherwood-carnivacs-amstrad_31.html
check its discussions.
PS: this indieretronews site has been looking like a good source of this materials for a while, I like it. Any other site recomended?
Thanks Erico for the info about the new game for Amstrad, in Spain the people practically don't do nothing for CPC***, all is for Spectrum :rant:
For people like do something with old machines and don't want learn ASM you have a couple of alternatives for Spectrum and Asmtrad.
For Amstrad : Super quick and very easy, yesterday I touch a bit and a love it.
http://lronaldo.github.io/cpctelera/files/readme-txt.html
For Spectrum: "La churrera" seems very easy, people with out skills programming, they did games with this Framework.
http://www.mojontwins.com/juegos_mojonos/la-churrera/ (The page is in English too, but I don't see the link :noggin: )
For Spectrum and I think this will be for more systems. (Perhaps funny for us, becuase is Basic) , people says is very powerfull and very easy too.
http://www.boriel.com/en/software/the-zx-basic-compiler/
Wow! That's some cracking retro coding info there mentalthink. Cheers :)
Sure shot! The basic for zx (last link) is so tempting! tnks mental!
About Boriel Basic I don't test yet (I read the Basic will works in Amstrad and another machines).
La churrera, I read a lot of people saying is very easy, the problem I see is all the games are very similar, but the mojons said if you learn the churrera can do more complex things , I suposse is adding some code.
And CPCtelera I touch yesterday for second time and is incredible easy to use, the good point is, you have a lot of tools for changins images, add sounds make maps.
You do the code un Geany in C then only have to do a make under Terminal in linux and you have all done, only put into CPC win or WinApe and you see your code working and works very very fast.
Thanks guys for reply, I like you like all this old crazy things. =D
How easy would it be to do a spectrum attribute clash effect on GLB? Im thinking that if you had some sort of array 32 x 24 where you stored the paper and ink colours then draw all the paper blocks on a background, then all graphics in white and then overlay the ink colours onto the graphics, would that work or is there a better way?
I´d probably go that way too, but would skip the background array and just draw bkg gfx with its restrictions right on a paint package.
That at least, would deal with sprites that get background colored.
Now if what you are looking for is foreground sprites that would paint the background with the clash...then I would do just like you said.
I tried setting up the Boriel basic but couldnt get it to work - i needed cygin library or sommit...
In the end I used the oldie ZX compiler called Mcoder III :)
I am doing a little book of 20 Type-In BASIC games for ZX Spectrum...releasing in next month hopefully...Aimed at Code Clubs and ZX Spectrum fans.
Hey, a book! Nice, let us know how it goes or post a page or two. :good:
When you finish the book comment us, and if you want I say something about it in the forum I am in Spaninsh, sure in "EL mundo del Spectrum" like the idea about new things for the Spectrum... In Spain I think is the most important Retro-Computing more much than Amstrad CPC, and really I don't understand , them have + or - the same sold of microcomputers in 80's.
In fact is a really good Idea, I'm thinking about do the same with the "CPC-telera" is a Framework in C , very easy to use for amstrad CPC, is done for a University of Valencia Teacher and he done his clases in the University with Amstrad Emulators and some real CPC for the students.
I found this the other day.
Stay a while,Stay forever!!
http://impossible-mission.krissz.hu/
One of my fave games - did you know I was working on a remake. Sady the artist got bored, leaving me with most of the game done.
(http://www.iprice.remakes.org/my_stuff/im.JPG)
(http://www.iprice.remakes.org/my_stuff/im_05.JPG)
(http://www.iprice.remakes.org/my_stuff/im_15.JPG)
(http://www.iprice.remakes.org/my_stuff/im_13.JPG)
(http://www.iprice.remakes.org/my_stuff/im_pc.JPG)
(http://www.iprice.remakes.org/my_stuff/im_shaft.JPG)
That looks amazing!
Great GFX.Is it a playable state?
It's a legend game on c64. Also on some Platforms, the mission was totally impossible. But in the early days I'm did not know what you should do with the puzzles, so I'm mostly just wanded and explore rooms, but it's was also fun for its self.
There is a official remake of this game as well.
Yeah, I have the PS2 version of IM. I must admit, I do have a soft spot for the MasterSystem version though.
Which version of IM is impossible? I've completed the PS2, C64, MS and CPC versions without problem.
I absolutely detested IM 2048 though. Awful.
Im did not remember when im wrote it, but found out its was the NTSC version of Atari 7800, that is incompletable, due a bug. Some of the puzzles was hidden behind the computer terminals, which cannot been searched..... oops.
In a another world, its could been fun to do a creppy remake using original graphics something this style:
PS. Ian, can you scale pictures abit down to avoid sidescroll on the forum (if you have posted it using dropbox or such)? Its did look very cool and gray.
LOL. That parody was excellent :)
I host the images on my own site and I need them to remain at that size on my site. Reducing the images would degrade their quality. I thought the forum software would scale them down (make a thumbnail until clicked), but obviously not.
As for the Atari version - D'oh!!! LOL
Never liked Impossible Mission - nor Elite
I liked Mission Impossible back in the day, I remember being very impressed with the, now classic ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxmtE5ylifU ), sampled speech.
Here a nice new ZX Spectrum game and quite an interesting blog post on how it came about... Aquanoids
(http://www.zxdevs.com/files/2015/09/aquanoids-01.png)
https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=en&ie=UTF8&prev=_t&rurl=translate.google.co.uk&sl=es&tl=en&u=http://zxdevs.com/2015/09/asi-se-hizo-aquanoids/&usg=ALkJrhiOmfQYQDzXKQCPUAo5OLZlHlew8A
Jeje Aquanoids just appears the last Week I think in Sunday... I comment to the autor , I think he say something or at least he will be happy looking his game here, out of the Spanish retro-Computing.
Read about Aquanoids a little ago...Damn! Those spanish guys really can keep the plate spinning... :good: (go play jar jar ninja RIGHT NOW!)
No wonder they produced so much back in the days.
I really love to see how people can keep machines going. On ZX, there has been a lot of great russian activities these past years too!
Ian, game looks super!
You should definitely try to finish or release an alpha :)
My Impossible Mission remake is now history - I no longer code with BMax and don't plan to port the game to GLB. I just don't have the time anymore.
Ian I see the images and I like a lot, I remind when I played in my Amstrad CPC, I like the game but I think was very long to finish, and a bit difficult. I see the images and them are very good looking. Think about do the Remake a similar game.
Jeje yes Erico , and I think the guy did Aquanoid don't know programming (I'm not sure, is very good doing music) the game is done with the "churrera" I read a lot of people did games and not have skills about programming. About Ninja Jar I played and is very very good is something like Alex kid mixed with another games...(they comment)
If you want play it, in my opinion one of the best of the past year, take a look to "Los Amores de Brunilda" , "Castlevania" is awesome too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T32e5KbUEfA
You will see the text in Spanish but I think is in English too... in the official page.
This people do very insteresting things...
http://www.retroworks.es/index.php
They are like "Mojons" but work with more machines Amstrad MSX, ZX...
I just confirmed on Skype today one of my small Speccy titles is going to be on a REAL ZX Spectrum C-15 tape with full inlays etc.
A bit of fun, but looking forward to it all the same! :)
Quote from: MrPlow on 2015-Sep-14
I just confirmed on Skype today one of my small Speccy titles is going to be on a REAL ZX Spectrum C-15 tape with full inlays etc.
A bit of fun, but looking forward to it all the same! :)
Cool :good:
Hey guys just this night another ZXSpectrum Game, made in Spain, from another people... I like a lot the video I see.
I leave the page of the project.
https://programbytes48k.wordpress.com/2015/09/14/fist-ro-fighter-lo-nuevo-de-retrobytes-productions/
Oh my! That brawler looks superb! Can´t wait.
That fighting game looks pretty cool :)
Graphics and game seens to look very nice and cool, and also very nice designed color uses. This is how Spectrum graphics should been used. But of course sound is sparse as Spectrum allways have been, except the nice launch sound.
Also its look like there is long ago before sam's journey for C64 is finished (as well the r-type spectrum style game).
Back in Tatoad´s thread, we were talking about Gauntlet, I though it would be ok to bring the discussion here and maybe hear a few other opinions.
Like I said, I think Gauntlet did not age very well at all, and that is not about gfx at all.
I take the new mix Gauntlet brought was the 4 players thing, the rest was and is a bit bland.
It does not play well alone at all (imho) and it is very featureless, quite a simple game.
I think earlier 1985, T.N.K III was released and I think that, while not multiplayer, has a lot more to offer, and hangs fine nowadays.
What do you guys think? Ian?
Maybe I missed something, but the energy constantly dropping on gauntlet was a no-no to me as a "gimme all your money now" game.
I did play it a few times on arcade with friends, but meeh.
I agree that as a single player game Gauntlet isn't good. However as a multi-player game it has all the features it needs - action, tension, annoyance (somebody stealing/shooting food etc.). As a game for it's time it had great graphics and strong competetive gameplay like few others. Yes it was simplistic, but ALL the best multiplayer games are. The objective is simple - get to the exit, but getting to the exit was often far from simple.
I agree it has its flaws, such as the ever decreasing energy - which to be fair was still better than three lives in most games (and the game generally did last longer than many arcade games of the day). It worked both as a hindrance and a process to push the player forward.
I get that it's not everyone's cup of tea; but thankfully we have loads of other games that might float our boats. Elite constantly makes it into the top 10 of people's fave games in polls. I think that is a really shit game.
Anyway, Gauntlet - I prefer Gauntlet: Dark Legacy on XBox to the arcade original, and my son and I have spent many, many hours playing and replaying that, so I can't agree that it's a shit game if it gave us all that quality time together.
BTW I've never seen or played TNK III, so can't comment on the game itself. I've just looked at a Youtbe vid and it didn't wow me, but it's difficult to look back at old games you didn't know or play with any affection. Rose tinted glasses and all that...
I see. TNK III was a multidirection top shooter (here at least similar to gauntlet), but your goal was usually up.
It resembles ikary warriors and frontline a bit, but just the tanks and the rotating joystick.
I thought it was a good take on the 1942/ 1943 style, specially me coming from taito´s The Tin Star.
Also, I usually like to think of games without the multiplayer thing, as pretty much all games can be fun with people regardless.
If the energy going down was not bad enough...you could still be IT (blue warrior is IT). :D
edit: I never saw that newer version...maybe I heard news or something, but never played it, will check it out.
I read something about Gauntlet (sorry I don't read all post), in my opionion, speaking about Gauntlet of 80's for me really don't like too much, and when I install in my CPC , my mother!!! what was those XD XD XD, the arcade perhaps have good graphics and you can play with some friend but in 8 bits I think was again a good name of Arcades and a bad game, another good example was Out run... bufff!!!
I see a new gauntlet some moths ago, and don't have bad look, nice 3D graphics but for me this game leave me a bad taste years ago, I know too much people like it a lot, but for me don't is a great game for remind.
I'm played Gauntlet on my c64 alone and it's was still fun as I'm remember. But SP might have works better on home ports.
I'm recently have seen gauntlet the legends (of remember title correct), which is dream cast like 3d, but framerate do stutter to much, often under 30fps.....
Here the latest gauntlet wannabe I have seen so far.
While it seems ok, I have grown a dislike for mixed gfx, like things are pixelated with few colors, then you have alpha transparencies all around producing billion colors, then there are tons of different pixel sizes, then then then.... argh! It must be a getting old thing. :D
its just a new style, hehe. mixing 16mit graphics with new graphics. The gameplay seens nicely.
Yep, it seems to be a style LOTs of devs are going for.
But it really hurts my eyes to see a diagonal pixel... :O :'(
Either way, I have been smoothed out a bit these years on that subject and I even bought this one gauntlet clone, hammerwatch, to play with my brother.
The game is fine, but it is long and it is a kind of game you don´t want to start over, there isen´t much into level variation, even if you pick a different kind of player. We haven´t finished it yet and I doubt I can convince my brother to keep it going, specially since I addicted him into rogue-likes... :)
Latest we have been playing is the experimental builds of cataclysm dda. But then you get on the subject of time, and how a rogue can´t be multiplayer.
Off subject apart, maybe that could be a good game to play with your son Ian? They take 4 players and seem to work fine over internet.
If that is your or anyone´s here cup of tea, let me know. I would like to finish it, but I don´t want to do it alone.
PS: hammerwatch is a game that takes a long time to play, so that may be a difficulty in searching for friends to play. I guess the original gauntlet was also a long run game.
I have Hammerwatch already - bought it on STEAM when it first came out, but haven't had time to play it. My son has moved on from playing with his Dad nowadays - he tends to play XBox online stuff with his mates or MineCraft and Terraria (on pc and XBox). No other pc games interest him now. We used to play Worms as a family too; not any more :(
Yep, worms must have been the greatest family game ever. The xbox with friends seems to be the standard nowadays unfortunately? But I don´t know, I have changed a few youngsters mind about games, specially to thinking/hard games. But I guess things move. My dad is on his 70s and he will play me and my brother any pinball, real or digital, all the time we challenge...and the bastard have a way into it, I prefer to call it luck. ;)
Erico I suggest for your father the MamePinball, you have all tables in the market, Williams (for me the better) Bootleg and I think another, and really old tables from 40's.... Pinballs are awesome I don't know how many money I waste when I was young...
Speaking about Pinballs and turning again to old good times.... Pinball Dreams
, all the game is really good , this table is really really fun...
Thanks, yep most of the amiga pinballs were super, we player them a lot. I think digitally, it started with RadioBall back on the coco.
I had pin mame together with a table simulator long time ago, we played a lot of Elvira and tales of the arabian nights, both one of my favorites where tons of cash had gone on the real thing.
A lot of awesome stuff in this thread!
I found a virtual video game console a couple months ago named the PICO-8.
Just curious if anyone has seen it and made a game for it?
It is very retro style!
http://www.lexaloffle.com/pico-8.php
Some of the better games I've seen so far are:
Puzzle Cave (http://www.lexaloffle.com/bbs/?tid=2039&autoplay=1)
Alien Abduction (http://www.lexaloffle.com/bbs/?tid=2217&autoplay=1)
Across the River (http://www.lexaloffle.com/bbs/?tid=2010&autoplay=1)
Kingslayers (http://www.lexaloffle.com/bbs/?tid=2424&autoplay=1)
There are many more that have been made including some tech demo stuff.
I thought some of you might be interested in checking it out. I really like stuff like this.
Haven't actually messed around with it yet although I am thinking I might soon!
I know about it, I follow up lexaloffe since it first released Voxatron, I´m also a huge fan of the way he makes music.
Also, here is a homebrew gauntlet style game on the COCO II
It looks pretty neat to me, specially me being the best player there is on Time Bandit. :whistle:
Looks like a good Gauntlet style game.
This game is very cool and well designed one button snake game (C64):
Graphics is pretty simple, but well defined and nice use of colors.
Jeje this game is really interesting for done a port for mobiles devices (something similar) , easy in graphics and the code not too much complex.
About the C64 is amazing something do the computer, in the first level the tail of the player have something like transparence , but no 1 or 0 like happend in Amstrad , the title of Stage remind me a lot the real arcade machines
NIce extrange and interesting game.Thks for sharing.
the first level shown was actuelly level 5. yes its smart uses of the bitmap mode.
Mightbeen im should post this into a new thread, but since its still on old formats, im do this here.
Im have played a lots with SidTracker 64 (which also eat quite much battery as well).
Im have converted some of the Jungool (iOS) and Manic Miner - The Lost Levels (Nintendo DS) songs. Both games here, im was the musican for those games, before im discovered Glbasic.
Yes, im might not been the biggest Spectrum fan, but that game was very fun to do the music for that Manic Miner game, property that one im have most fun with music. Im also the original Manic Miner games was better on Spectrum than on C64 if we compare both original versions.
Here is some of the converted songs from both games in sid format (of course):
http://greatflash.co.uk/index.php?topic=1233.msg27969#msg27969
Very nice tunes!
Listened to them on VLC on my laptop. :good:
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It looks pretty neat to me, specially me being the best player there is on Time Bandit. :whistle:
Glove is great. I hadn't seen that homebrew title before. Time Bandit is such a cool game.
I can created and store tiles to create a maze in just BASIC but it take a few seconds to scroll move to the next room.
Back in 2000, I made a port of JetPac for the GameBoy Color called JetPak DX, it was my first GameBoy game and helped me to learn C and z80 ASM.
http://asobitech.com/jpdx/
(http://asobitech.com/jpdx/jpdx100a.gif)
Nice dx graphics!
Ah JetPac the first computer game I fell in love with... :-*
Your port looks great BTW! :good:
im thinks the first program i fininshed was Amos on Amiga.
Currectly im still doing C64 sid files, and have added more Jungool and now with Manic Miner - The Lost Level music (Nintendo DS).
Recently Im even tried to emulate the beeper music from Manic Miner Spectrum to C64. That was quite fun.
Im diddent trought in first round, so im redone the tune from original C64 Manic Miner port instead (which is a quite boring one). Later im got aware C64 music should run in 50hz, and then im could emulate the Speccy tune quite close. That was very fun. Due the nature of the game, im thinks this would works pretty good to let it sound just like the Speccy as one of the tunes, just like im did for Nintendo DS version.
Im also ported the Sam Coupe Manic Miner tune as well to C64, here with normal C64 sound, but in same style. The title music is still that classic one, but with my own take on it.
Here the link again (later im will collect it with zip, when im have done mp3 versions):
http://greatflash.co.uk/index.php?topic=1233.0
PS. Greedy Mouse came from Mouse Runner/Xor, a Amos game to Amiga. Im still have that game.