XBox One (aka XBox 720) revealed

[bigsofty]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-22613948



Should be quite an interesting Christmas this year with a new console battle about to commence! 

[fuzzy70]

Will be interesting that's for sure. Quite a few people tend to be loyal with what they have used in the past, I.e ps1->ps2->ps3. Blueray playback helped Sony get some extra people onboard I think.

One things for sure both the next gen consoles are extremely powerful so hard to say what will happen.

Lee

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[CW]

Yeah, but any console which requires always-on will be a big turn off for me. Not that I'm not always on anyway, but it's the principle of the thing. Sort of like the e-readers that don't allow you to load free books from the public-domain, or stores that charge you extra if you don't use their 'loyalty' card and let them compile a profile on you to sell to marketers. Just the other day I had a Google ad for an automobile pop up on my screen which showed a map to the nearest dealership and had a fat tan star over where I live. How the heck did Google get my home address??! I strongly resent the intrusive liberties marketers advance on my privacy. That is one dealership I will never buy from.

Ah hell. It's happening, isn't it? I'm turning into a cranky old cat-loving, sweater-wearing curmudgeon.   
-CW

[fuzzy70]

I know what you mean CW. The other day I had an ad for "Geek 2 Geek" dating which could only have come from Facebook as no other site I use knows my current relationship status. I have to admit that ad did make me giggle.

I recall Sony saying it won't go down the always on route due to some countries would miss out & loss of market share. However we all know big corps have a habit of changing their mind last minute when it suits them.

Online requirements are something that really gets my back up, for example program documentation. If a program is still being developed & the documentation is not yet finalised then ok, but for a completed app that is no excuse to me. How hard is it for them to generate a pdf or chm for the user to download?.

I'm not always at home where internet is available & spend a fair bit of time in neighbouring villages where mobile signal is not available, unless I happen to be on a network provider that services that area.

Lee

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[Youkaisan]

XBox One looks like a Video Tape Player..... is it a joke or MS's given up the concept of "Design"?

It's many years since I've not playing any AAA game, well, my kids may not like the shape of XBOne, this Xmas I'm gonna give them some sport goods and being outside, away from tech products.

[erico]

What do you mean MS´s given up the concept design? This thing is beautiful!
...and I think it has 8 heads.

[Schranz0r]

Hmm, i like the design...
yepp 8 heads

A lot of power

I realy like to know how much this thing is (400 - 500 Euro ?)

[mentalthink]

Really Ugly.. the size, this it's a Desktop computer lying on side

[bigsofty]

I'm not too bothered about looks, as long a the performance is up to scratch. One thing that does bother me is this fee to use old games. The games are tied to the original system. It means that if someone pays you a visit, with a new xbox game, then it won't work or if you buy a 2nd hand game or even rent a game. None will work, unless you pay MS a fee. This could be a deal-breaker for me personally as we mainly ebay 2nd hand copies of 360 games. Also, pre-order here in the UK is £400. That's quite expensive too IMHO. I think I may hang back to see if any of this comes to pass.

[kanonet]

Hmm a camera and a microphone. The camera has face tracking ability that even can identify individual persons and even catch there emotions. And this on an "black box" device that is forced to be always online (and designed to be always on), controlled by a company that is willing to get every cent out of you and would even sell livestreams from your livingroom to marketing people or everyone that is willing to pay them, as long as we do not watch out carefully (and I am sure this will come!). Besides M$ is not known for creating secure systems so... And do not tell me that my laptop has camera and microphone too, its not the same, it works offline too and is not even half as closed ("black box") as xbox. But ok maybe I am just a bit paranoid cause I am getting old?

Besides this, PS4 is way more powerful then xbox so why should someone, thats is willing to pay that much for a simple gaming device, get the less powerful device?

[fuzzy70]

I am surprised M$ went down the fee route for 2nd hand games especially has totally dropped that idea (originally both companies where flying the "Games will be console locked" flag).

I have not heard any concrete hardware specs on the ONE or the PS4 tbh, a few speculations & hints but nothing solid. More info should be available at the E3 show.

Lee

[kanonet]

Specs of both are known now. Of cause not in complete details but enough to compare them and make educated assumptions about how they perform compared to each other. At least thats what i did understand. Interesting German article about this: http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/Analyse-Xbox-One-unterliegt-Playstation-4-bei-3D-Performance-deutlich-1868430.html
Probably there will be an English article like this somewhere too.

[fuzzy70]

I have to be honest & admit I have not checked the specs for both consoles for a few of weeks so took what I read with a pinch of salt. The ONE launch didn't really go into much tech detail from what I saw.

I'm not even sure actually of the backwards compatibility of either of the consoles as that could influence quite a few peoples choice if one of them will only run their own content.

Lee

[erico]

I don´t bother for looks either. The "always on" + "no used/friends game" is too much for me. Suppose I take it to a beach house, like my friend does with his current xbox, no internet there, maybe by phone, but would we be stuck with a brick?

Anyways, I´m not the person to buy a console neither AAA games, so I guess my opinion does not count.
I would like to see kofxiii out for pc as that is one game (double A?) I would buy, but not getting a console for such....might as well wait for emulation...I´m patient

[fuzzy70]

With regards to AAA games Halo & Forza series I like on 360 & Gran Turismo on PS3.

Other than that I love the Guitar/Rock hero series of games which I have all of them between my Wii & PS2 all of which I got via ebay or Cash converters for £1-5 each. So what if the 360 or PS3 versions have better background graphics as you don't see them at all while playing as to busy following the notes down the middle of the screen  .

Lee