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Title: Caanoo support
Post by: Kitty Hello on 2011-Sep-19
on the way. Image is no fake.

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Title: Re: Caanoo support
Post by: hardyx on 2011-Sep-19
GOOOD!!! :good:
There are some users waiting this.
Title: Re: Caanoo support
Post by: Ian Price on 2011-Sep-19
=D
Title: Re: Caanoo support
Post by: trucidare on 2011-Sep-19
hmm i thought cannoo is much bigger.
Title: Re: Caanoo support
Post by: Ian Price on 2011-Sep-19
It does look small, doesn't it.
Title: Re: Caanoo support
Post by: Kitty Hello on 2011-Sep-19
I find the caanoo quite big in comparison to the Wiz. I have long fingers, maybe that's an illusion?

Here's a comparison of devices sizes:
left: Palm Pixi,
center, topdown: GP2X-F200, Caanoo, Wiz, iControlPad
right: Audio CD box.



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Title: Re: Caanoo support
Post by: Ian Price on 2011-Sep-19
It must have been your fingers and the angle of the photo. The Wiz is quite small, but feels good in the hands - how's the Caanoo?
Title: Re: Caanoo support
Post by: Ruidesco on 2011-Sep-19
The Wiz is indeed smaller than the Caanoo or the original GP2X I have, mainly because the Wiz screen is 2.8" while the rest of the Gamepark Holdings handhelds (GP32, GP2X and Caanoo) have a 3.5" one.
Title: Re: Caanoo support
Post by: MrTAToad on 2011-Sep-19
What is the speed like ?
Title: Re: Caanoo support
Post by: doimus on 2011-Sep-19
Sadly, as it seems, Gamepark Holdings, the company behind Caanoo, just went out of business and device itself out of production.  :(

Bad marketing and iOS/Android have done its way...
Title: Re: Caanoo support
Post by: MrTAToad on 2011-Sep-19
They've gone the way of the dodo - again !?  :blink:
Title: Re: Caanoo support
Post by: hardyx on 2011-Sep-20
Sadly, as it seems, Gamepark Holdings, the company behind Caanoo, just went out of business and device itself out of production.  :(
They seem to continue in business and they have Caanoo stock.
Title: Re: Caanoo support
Post by: gigios on 2011-Sep-20
Excellent news. I hope soon to be released a beta version  :nw:
Title: Re: Caanoo support
Post by: felix330 on 2011-Sep-20
Sadly, as it seems, Gamepark Holdings, the company behind Caanoo, just went out of business and device itself out of production.  :(

Bad marketing and iOS/Android have done its way...
They will continue production of the caanoo, as long as people still buy it. They just won't develop any new gaming handhelds.

Title: Re: Caanoo support
Post by: kayuz on 2011-Sep-20
please, support for the caanoo. :nw:
this will open a completely new world for our little CAANOO ;)
Title: Re: Caanoo support
Post by: erico on 2011-Sep-20
This is great, caanoo seems to be a nice device.
at least one I can buy localy for around 150$.

I was wondering if it would be worth for me to purchase one,
or should I save to buy a mooooore expensive android on the hopes it could work out the same way?

For those who own it, how is it like?
Could you name the bads out of it?
I play a lot of arcades, rygar and fighting games, its control looks neat, is it precise?

it does look charming.
Title: Re: Caanoo support
Post by: hardyx on 2011-Sep-21
For those who own it, how is it like?
Could you name the bads out of it?
I play a lot of arcades, rygar and fighting games, its control looks neat, is it precise?
Caanoo is like a GP2X in shape and size, but slimer and battery powered. If you don't owned a GP2X, is like a PSP slim with a 4:3 screen. The analog stick is good for arcade like MAME, and as precise as a d-pad.
Pros: rechargeable battery, many free apps, wifi support, 128 Mb RAM.
Cons: not compatible with Wiz, has a frame that covers first 3 pixels rows.
Title: Re: Caanoo support
Post by: Kitty Hello on 2011-Sep-21
it has a Wiz-support layer working like WINE on PC. So, it can perfectly play Wiz games.
Title: Re: Caanoo support
Post by: gigios on 2011-Sep-21
it has a Wiz-support layer working like WINE on PC. So, it can perfectly play Wiz games.

This is true but in that case you can not use the G-Sensor and Vibration present only in Caanoo  :whistle:
Title: Re: Caanoo support
Post by: hardyx on 2011-Sep-21
it has a Wiz-support layer working like WINE on PC. So, it can perfectly play Wiz games.
You are talking about GINGE I think.  :blink:
Title: Re: Caanoo support
Post by: Kitty Hello on 2011-Sep-21
ok, update is available (as a new setup).

The acceleration for Caanoo is gives as GETJOYX(1) and such (2nd Joystick device).
Vibration is missing.
Title: Re: Caanoo support
Post by: gigios on 2011-Sep-21
Wonderful  :booze:

Vibration is missing.

There is some hope that this feature is added in the future? (ok, I know that is not necessary for write good games ;))
Title: Re: Caanoo support
Post by: MrTAToad on 2011-Sep-22
Is there a Caanoo emulator around anywhere ?
Title: Re: Caanoo support
Post by: Kitty Hello on 2011-Sep-22
nope, sorry. You can get them quite cheap, though. Around 100,-EUR new or try eBay for 2nd hand.
Title: Re: Caanoo support
Post by: hardyx on 2011-Sep-23
Works good in Caanoo, but I almost became crazy because I copied the contents of Caanoo distribute directory and not worked. I have to copy the resources in Media to distribute directory and works all ok. I hate the new distribute folder!!! :(
Title: Re: Caanoo support
Post by: Kitty Hello on 2011-Sep-23
oops. Will copy Media on the next update. So sorry.
Title: Re: Caanoo support
Post by: hardyx on 2011-Sep-23
I'ts only a small nuisance. You made a good work, thanks. :good:

BTW: I see in the executable header that you are using EABI v0 (wiz toolchain), not EABI v4 (caanoo toolchain), but works. This could not work in earlier Caanoo firmware versions.
Title: Re: Caanoo support
Post by: Kitty Hello on 2011-Sep-23
I'm using the codesourcery toolchain for ARM. I put the settings (as DjWillis told me) to: -mcpu=arm926ej-s -mtune=arm926ej-s

I have firmware version 1.6.1, Linux 2.6.24 Rev 167
Serial 2011.07.13 gp2xV500 000000271
Title: Re: Caanoo support
Post by: MrTAToad on 2011-Sep-25
What's the 3D like on a Caanoo ?
Title: Re: Caanoo support
Post by: Kitty Hello on 2011-Sep-26
Software renderer. Should be quite usefull, though.
Title: Re: Caanoo support
Post by: mentalthink on 2011-Sep-27
Then... works fine the 3D now on Canno?¿....
 :nw: :nw: :nw:
Title: Re: Caanoo support
Post by: Kitty Hello on 2011-Sep-28
The test program that did not work on the WinCE worked fine.
Title: Re: Caanoo support
Post by: Leos on 2011-Oct-09
Much waited! :D Very good news, thank you!  :nw: <3
Title: Re: Caanoo support
Post by: erico on 2011-Oct-17
back again...
so it seems I can get a caanoo around here for 200$, way over then the playasia price  :(

Since I´m a cheap person, I would like to get the best out of it and since I can´t try one I have been checking the net and tube for all info I can gather.

I´m concerned about the stylus touch in it... I could be used as a never-ending-paper for drawing, like a cheap cintiq.
Is its response any good?

I heard the battery can last for ~4 and half hours runing some emu continuously, max bright and so on. Does this hold true?

I have an almost 20 years old working atary linx, I take good care of my toys but I´m never afraid to use them a lot.
Do you guys think the quality inside caanoo can hold that long? Is the analog control cheap?

Anyway, if those that own it could help me out on this info I will be grateful.
Title: Re: Caanoo support
Post by: Ian Price on 2011-Oct-17
If it's anything like the Wiz, then the stylus and touch support is very good - much better than the GP2X F200.

Apparently the analog controls are really good. The build quality is also said to be much better than Wiz which was so much better than GP2X).

There's never any guarantee about the lifespan of any machine, but I bet Atari didn't expect your Lynx to still be working. You pay your money and you take your chance. A new car can break down on it's first drive - a new toy (electronic or otherwise) can do the same. If you want total reliability then don't buy it - then you won't be disappointed.

BTW $200 is way over the odds, around these parts.
Title: Re: Caanoo support
Post by: erico on 2011-Oct-17
I perfectly understand the risks on buying anything. I just want some words of wisdom from owners.
Specially things one should watch and care for.

yep, the final price is 230$ but I get it on my hands, unbox it and play a while to test before forking the money.
There is a possibility I can import from playasia for 168$ but them it can get stuck on customs for as long as they want and they can charge me as much as they want as taxes(can reach from 60 to 100% the total price)...no clear brazilian laws on imports...really sucks!

I like the prospect of playing emus, reading books, coding glbasic for it and drawing on it.
I rather ask around here for opinions instead of specific forums as I thrust us to have a less biased opinion for things.
Flaws on a product interests me as I can try to think ahead of it (don´t take me as a pessimist ;/).

I also heard of the build quality on it too, it seems pretty good.
By what I see on tube, the stylus feels quite responsive.

thanks.

ps:. I forgot to mention, maybe this helps understand my reasons, there is no such thing as warranty and final price is in REAIS, there was a dollar raise last week from 1.4 to 1.7 .
Title: Re: Caanoo support
Post by: erico on 2011-Oct-21
Oh well, just got the caanoo,
it seems quite nice.

I hope to be able to do something for its community as well as here.
I have been into a hard assignment for 4 months, should end anytime next week,
then I should have some time to play with it and answer my own questions for others in case they have it.

Been able to glbasic into it will be awesome!

If anything goes wrong, I will just blame Ian for persuading me!! :P :P

just kidding, I´m hard on letting money go, I thank Ian for being as straight as possible with the subject, It´s this kind of advice(realistic ones) that really helps me pushing things the way I want.

Anyone knows the best forum to get things going about caanoo?
It seems to me gp32x (de) is the best place to be, am I wrong?
Title: Re: Caanoo support
Post by: Ian Price on 2011-Oct-22
I use the English GP32X.com forums, as my German is about as good as my Martian :P

Anyway, good on you for not going with the flow and going with the niche crowd. Some of my finest development moments came and still come from doing that (I'd much rather dev for webOS than iOS and Android).

What I will say though, having devved for GP2X and Wiz for a couple of years is that feedback and thanks will be virtually nil. They'll let you know if they don't like what you give them (and honestly if it's not emulator related they aren't that interested), but if you do something right you won't here a peep. Hopefully the Caanoo crowd is a bit different and things have improved since I last wrote code for GP2X/Wiz.
Title: Re: Caanoo support
Post by: erico on 2011-Oct-22
Anyway, good on you for not going with the flow and going with the niche crowd. Some of my finest development moments came and still come from doing that (I'd much rather dev for webOS than iOS and Android).

I share the same opinion, I would never buy psp or whathever like that
My interest into this came only because glbasic can do for it,
my emu itch can be healed down on my main pc.

Nothing wrong with the mainstream though, some of my friends have it, but I simply can´t.
I will sign into that board as time allows, hope to see you there!
Title: Re: Caanoo support
Post by: erico on 2011-Oct-24
I compiled the snowman 3d project for the caanoo but can´t get an image.
the print commands print ok on the screen and works fine, but no 3d image, just black, am I missing something?
reduced texture size and killed the light, but no game.
Anyone tried 3d on caanoo?
Title: Re: Caanoo support
Post by: Kitty Hello on 2011-Oct-24
I tried a small example and it worked. Strange that the snowman doesn't.
Title: Re: Caanoo support
Post by: erico on 2011-Oct-24
...then I must be doing something wrong, I will test better soon