...as I didn't want to wait for days (or more likely weeks) for Windows 10, I upgraded with the Media Creation Tool (https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/software-download/windows10). GLBasic still works fine with Windows 10!
Good to know :D
Thoughts on W10 so far? I've seen both positive and negative feedback. The biggest problem appears to be the amount of data retrieval I'm hearing about and drivers for certain video cards.
Its somewhat better than Windows 8, but not by much. Its no real evolution - just feels like they were trying to fix Windows 8 :)
It looks nice, but doesn't do anything faster... The upgrade wasn't fast, and you do meet The Black Screen Of Worry...
Overall, its okay - nothing really special about, but at least its free...
Windows do look more like MacOS though, which could be regarded as a sort of plus!
Looking like MacOS is NOT a bonus in my book.
Should of stuck with the Win7 look IMHO - I really don't like the "Everything in the world has to be square-ish" look. This isn't just computers/phones/tablets related - this is everything, from cars to buildings to fashion to furniture and everything else. I like curves and rounded things, slopes and odd angles. The natural world is anything but square.
Im is still on "queue". Anders, one of my friends did liked win 10, even its does have some issues.
The only issue with Windows 10 is glbasic does not support universial apps, which is the more correct way to do, even its still works nicely with normal desktop apps of course.
Yes, Windows Universal Apps would be nice - but Gernot would have to get the lastest version of Visual Studio and then fix all upgrading problems :)
Microsoft Edge is okay - very sluggish at times though, and current doesnt support ad-ons, which is annoying.
In all that chaos we need something orderly to cling on to, like squares =D
Agreed philosophically!
But I would question the hard sharp angles on the border of the square, are they really that sharp or a single point curve? ::)
im got somewhere bad experimence with win 10, but its was howover only in the start. There was some issues im got changed the gui to somewhere tablet view, which dosent work very well on a desktop. Its took some time to disable it. After that its fell nicely throught.
Microsoft Edge is a nice browser and fell right. Yes its might not support plugins, but that was doing this by design. This is something when Apple dropped Flash support in iOS nearly completly. So its not news about it. Internet Explorer is still in for that reason.
Also Chrome also soon disable the very old Netscape plugin system as well too.
Since Microsoft support xcode and android project on somehow, im dont thinks that is that hard to get tested how much that require changes to get working for universal apps, eventuelly a project like we did with xcode 64bit. But desktop apps does working. The only issue here is the app should been full screen when tablet view is enabled (which its did not do that correctly).
PS. Im do hope they now supporting OpenGL in universal app.
I was exposed to Windows 10 by a hardcore 3d gamer yesterday.
You can program windows 10 to run voice recoginized macros into any game, and tell it to "throw Grenade!" Fire" Missle!" and itll press F1 and F2 for ya.
Just awesome....works with any program the way i understood it.
I like a lot hte UI the rectangles , it's very simple and atractive... I think in version 10 when you use Explorer or another tools like Shops, in the screen appear a huge logo about the app, I hope in this version the program get less time to load, in Windows 8 , in any windows you open app without use all this time.
The UI in mobiles it's very similar, I think Windows Phone is more easy to use than Android and perhaps than iOS, I only arrive to 5.1 on iPad.
The answers Cortana gives to some questions are amusing, although it is not usually helpful, merely taking you to an appropriate site rather than directly answering a problem.
Its not bad : Games work; Firefox is a bit funny with YouTube but overal its okay. At least it's free!
Windows 10 has a key logger, trojan file copier and personal data miner built in by default. Seriously, it's like getting your computer full of viruses by intent. I have a Surface Pro 3 and I already regret updating it. It copies every keystroke, every recorded sound and any files it wants and transmits them back Microsoft.
Here is a quick guide to removing some of the built in malware... https://fix10.isleaked.com
Just be aware that a lot of these are scheduled to be turned back on automatically as in the T&C you agreed to before the install.
The European digital rights organisation (EDRi) sums up the company's 45 pages of terms and conditions by saying: "Microsoft basically grants itself very broad rights to collect everything you do, say and write with and on your devices in order to sell more targeted advertising or to sell your data to third parties."
And people have been having problems with updates too :)
Lots and lots of reports of strange behaviours due to Win10 - machines turning on when in suspend mode, graphics and audio issues - including flickering, black screens and stuttering audio. Ignoring the whole "phone home" stuff.
Oh dear.
I have Vista Pro and Win 7 Pro on my laptops - and keeping it that way for now!
"Get bent M$!" :)
I really feel Microsoft are gonna regret some of their policies - some 3rd party with a lot of backing might come out with an alternative that runs all windows stuff.... and Apple are worse than them!
An OS that ships online data...this is just horrible, probably won´t happen on the more pro version of it, which is what I will be trying in 6 months or an year.
I know it won´t upload the files itself but still, who said they could use my payed internet service for their own needs in the first place?
Strange times. Let´s wait and see.
Facebook and the Hype about Cloud Computing are to blame - Microsoft probably wouldn't have dared but can use the excuse that the Cloud is the way to go - which is lame excuse ... facebook already steals all our digital data etc.
But facebook steals only what you put on it lets say? But a full OS stealing everything?
I hear it is only about the home versions and so.
ps: I have been using less and less of facebook, it has become really crap with all its apps, very doubtfull ads, total to no control anymore on your newsfeed. I believe this way they will go down soon (~3years), No surprise they have been investing on different fields.
Like any new OS...you have to let it simmer a few years till the next OS is available. lol
Quote from: erico on 2015-Aug-02
Agreed philosophically!
But I would question the hard sharp angles on the border of the square, are they really that sharp or a single point curve? ::)
Particles.... no edges.
Looks nice Hemlos,
quite creepy!
Quote from: erico on 2015-Aug-12But a full OS stealing everything?
Ever heard about Android? A whole OS made by a tracking company, which only made it to get more data about you, so it can sell better advertising targets to its customers (customers are those that buy add space and pay google, you are just a data deliverer, no customer). BTW I dont blame Android to be worse then anything else, I just point out, that Microsoft is just following a trend.
You also should worry about your browser, if you dont configure it very carefully and block many "services" you just let it hand out extremely large data about you, by just surfing sites, even if you dont log into anything.
At Win10:
what I find the most fun are updates. In the last months Microsoft had problems with quality of updates the had to pull back several because they caused problems, going up to completely destroying the windows installation so it could not boot up any more. But if you got informed about that fast enough, you could decide to not install this updates. What did Microsoft with Win10? Enforce all updates, you can not cancel out individual ones, it will automatically install all updates. Well done Microsoft, creative solution.
Quote from: bigsoftylink=topic=10384.msg91758#msg91758 date=1438770613Here is a quick guide to removing some of the built in malware... https://fix10.isleaked.com
Thank you for that link, did help to setup my testing win10.
Oh, I know what android is, but I kind of don´t bother much since it is not an OS that is running the core of my work.
Yep, agreed on the ´following trend´ and I doubt OSX and WIN didn´t do much of these before either way.
Are there versions for win 10? like home, enterprise, etc? If so what is yours?
Yes, there are multiple versions - mine is the Home version.
Quote from: bigsofty on 2015-Aug-05
Here is a quick guide to removing some of the built in malware... https://fix10.isleaked.com
omg, thats a long list of installation instructions, i think im going to wait on win 10 for now.....wait for the "features" to be sorted in later version.
I think all these can be put in a singe reg file to import.
Quote from: MrTAToad on 2015-Aug-01
The upgrade wasn't fast, and you do meet The Black Screen Of Worry...
"The Black Screen Of Worry" :D lol I know exactly what you mean, I think this new term will catch on. I'm still on Windows 8.1 but that also has this "Black Screen Of Worry" every now and then. It's usually an unannounced upgrade right at start up, without any feeback or progress bar or anything. For couple of minutes you're just staring at a black screen even though there's some HDD activity.
The first time I got this BSOW I shut the computer down after about 2 minutes thinking it had just crashed or something. But after that my sounddriver was gone and I couldn't open the configuration screen anymore.
Yes, it is something that annoys me about Windows (and Microsoft) - any time there is a long operation (or really for any operation which the user cant stop), there should be feedback about the progress of the operation. With The Black Screen Of Worry, you dont know if anything is happening (especially if there is no disk activity) - I have reset the computer in this state a few times, thinking it has crashed.
Fortunately, in this case, I left it and was rewarded with The Coloured Screen Of Relief.
Quote from: MrTAToad on 2015-Aug-17
Yes, it is something that annoys me about Windows (and Microsoft) - any time there is a long operation (or really for any operation which the user cant stop), there should be feedback about the progress of the operation. With The Black Screen Of Worry, you dont know if anything is happening (especially if there is no disk activity) - I have reset the computer in this state a few times, thinking it has crashed.
Fortunately, in this case, I left it and was rewarded with The Coloured Screen Of Relief.
Indeed. We've all been there, methinks.